Google should be very careful with these aggressive tactics. They are quickly losing many users. There are other options available nowadays, including browser like Brave. I personally have switched back to Firefox. I still like Google but they are falling into the same old trap of not listening to their users. The moment they let that escalated and there are other viable options then the game is over.
Disable Google Chrome Sign In and Sync
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
The day is not that far, when you look to buy say car insurance, and you get $XYZ as a quote. Your ur friend gets $ABC where $ABC Is there a way you could prevent this? Yes, if you care about privacy and not let someone build that database in the first place. It's not only/always the NSA that we need to worry about.. You can already see this in some sense. A flight ticket could cost more if you look for it using a Ma…
> Is there a way you could prevent this? Yes, regulations on insurance pricing factors and on use of personal data.
True. However, I can easily guard my data than to effect politics and regulations all over the world.
Why not both?
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
The day is not that far, when you look to buy say car insurance, and you get $XYZ as a quote. Your ur friend gets $ABC where $ABC Is there a way you could prevent this? Yes, if you care about privacy and not let someone build that database in the first place. It's not only/always the NSA that we need to worry about.. You can already see this in some sense. A flight ticket could cost more if you look for it using a Ma…
Information about what you're willing to pay isn't sufficient to lead to you paying a higher price, like in your example. There has to be no competition in the given market (probably not the case in your particular example-- car insurance).
This is the exact opposite of what economics would predict. If you have a greater risk than your friend, then you will pay more because your expected risk is higher. In perfect competition, your rate would be equal to your expected return (that is, the premiums would match the expected payout).
So, if an insurer can identify that you have a greater risk than your friend, in perfect competition you would pay a higher rate. No insurer with perfect knowledge of risk would allow you to pay less than that, because they’re expected return would be negative.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Information about what you're willing to pay isn't sufficient to lead to you paying a higher price, like in your example. There has to be no competition in the given market (probably not the case in your particular example-- car insurance).
What competition? Oh, you mean those companies on the second page of the search results?
Lack of ability for companies to advertise to you seems like a distinct concern from that of how much information they have about you, let's take it one at a time!
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've ran into various comments around the internet/reddit that Google sites like Youtube are slower on Firefox, and that changing the user agent to Chrome fixes it.
That seems hard to believe as it would imply that they have code specifically to cripple the Firefox experience. It's probably at worst that they intentionally don't optimize their sites for Firefox and not actively making it worse.
> That seems hard to believe as it would imply that they have code specifically to cripple the Firefox experience.
I think it's more the case of enhancing the Chrome experience and not doing anything to deliberately impact firefox.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Information about what you're willing to pay isn't sufficient to lead to you paying a higher price, like in your example. There has to be no competition in the given market (probably not the case in your particular example-- car insurance).
This is the exact opposite of what economics would predict. If you have a greater risk than your friend, then you will pay more because your expected risk is higher. In perfect competition, your rate would be equal to your expected return (that is, the premiums would match the expected payout). So, if an insurer can identify that you have a greater risk than your friend, in perfect competition you would pay a higher…
I was assuming they were concerned about you being charged more than the cost of providing the insurance. If the supposed dystopia is indeed merely the reality where everyone gets charged the cost of providing the service I have to ask how exactly you think things work right now.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
The day is not that far, when you look to buy say car insurance, and you get $XYZ as a quote. Your ur friend gets $ABC where $ABC Is there a way you could prevent this? Yes, if you care about privacy and not let someone build that database in the first place. It's not only/always the NSA that we need to worry about.. You can already see this in some sense. A flight ticket could cost more if you look for it using a Ma…
Information about what you're willing to pay isn't sufficient to lead to you paying a higher price, like in your example. There has to be no competition in the given market (probably not the case in your particular example-- car insurance).
Competition and free market is not always the best solution to all the problems. In this case, what if all insurance companies are allowed to build such profiles? They all rely on that creepy data hoarder that built the shitty profile on you.
In that case the companies will compete to give you competitive yet higher than others quotes to YOU(as they can see).
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#88Keep in mind that while everybody here is all outraged about this, nobody else is. Because the experience is so nice. It's the reason why I can search for "prefecture Melun" on my laptop, then jump in the car, open up maps on my phone, Start typing "1" and watch it suggest "12 rue de Gambas, Melun 77320", which happens to be the address of the Melun prefecture. That sort of thing happens for me every day, and i think…
100% agree with you. This is one of the main reasons why I switched to Chrome. I can understand that some people value their privacy, but for those cases why don't just use a browser like Firefox.
I'm pretty sure most people switched to Chrome because it was a better browser, not because they wanted Google to have more information about their browsing habits. Note that all the examples you're agreeing with are about logged-in experiences with Google products and have nothing to do with being signed in to Chrome.
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#89Keep in mind that while everybody here is all outraged about this, nobody else is. Because the experience is so nice. It's the reason why I can search for "prefecture Melun" on my laptop, then jump in the car, open up maps on my phone, Start typing "1" and watch it suggest "12 rue de Gambas, Melun 77320", which happens to be the address of the Melun prefecture. That sort of thing happens for me every day, and i think…
Can you give one example of a convenience you got from being signed in to the Chrome browser? All of your examples would work without that.
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#90> As much as I might like Chrome (and Google)
Why would you? Brokering data in a borderline illegal or immoral way is their business model.