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Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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That's not an option for mobile though..

Firefox have extensions on mobile, plus ads make websites heavier, and suck more bandwidth _____________________________ Says the person with +500 tabs on chrome android

+500. Whoa. I hit the :D face and sweep all my open tabs into Pocket.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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The HTML version is the legacy UI from a few generations ago, before features like inbox categories were implemented.

I always assumed the behaviour and categorization was in their backend. I think its weird that the view (HTML vs javascript) is not decoupled from the model?

what exactly are they supposed to do in the backend?

they probably have an api in which you can limit the results by category. As the old interface doesn't have any limiter implemented, they're getting all the results back.

you can also disable categories in the newer interface and the effect would be the same (everything in the inbox)

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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I just kind of figured we'd stop having UI lag by now. I work on a 24 core workstation with 64GB of RAM and things lag all the time. Not slow to complete, like jittery key entry and non-responses. Haven't we figured out thread prioritization by now? Can't we make sure something draws 60 times per second while things are going on in the background? My Android Studio build should be totally isolated from my inbox. I kn…

This isn't meant to be an especially religious comment, but I regularly switch back and forth between OSX and Windows 10 and wanted to make mention of the differences. I also use Ubuntu fairly regularly but only over ssh so I'll discount it from this comparison.

Both OSX and Windows 10 do suffer from UI lag but, in my experience, it is far worse on Windows 10 to the point where I have come to absolutely detest Windows 10. It's particularly bad on the login/unlock screen, which often takes multiple seconds to even appear when you get back to your machine - frustrating when you're in a hurry.

With that said, some of it is certainly application specifically. Office 365 Outlook, for example, is particularly egregious in this regard: switching between windows, or between mail and calendar is awful. Microsoft Teams also regularly hangs for multiple seconds when switching between teams, or between chats. Extremely aggravating.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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I just kind of figured we'd stop having UI lag by now. I work on a 24 core workstation with 64GB of RAM and things lag all the time. Not slow to complete, like jittery key entry and non-responses. Haven't we figured out thread prioritization by now? Can't we make sure something draws 60 times per second while things are going on in the background? My Android Studio build should be totally isolated from my inbox. I kn…

This isn't meant to be an especially religious comment, but I regularly switch back and forth between OSX and Windows 10 and wanted to make mention of the differences. I also use Ubuntu fairly regularly but only over ssh so I'll discount it from this comparison. Both OSX and Windows 10 do suffer from UI lag but, in my experience, it is far worse on Windows 10 to the point where I have come to absolutely detest Window…

Just curious, is that windows machine possibly not on an SSD? My windows 10 rig opens a profile faster than my MacBook

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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> For some reason most people see either no symptoms or much milder symptoms than I do.

This seems to be right for "most people". But there are definitely a few people who are annoyed by issues like this but aren't in a position to troubleshoot and report it.

Even I, after helping people with computers since mid nineties I still can't troubleshoot like that. I'll fall back to latency checking and turning off services one by one, combined with a fair amount of experience + googling.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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I just kind of figured we'd stop having UI lag by now. I work on a 24 core workstation with 64GB of RAM and things lag all the time. Not slow to complete, like jittery key entry and non-responses. Haven't we figured out thread prioritization by now? Can't we make sure something draws 60 times per second while things are going on in the background? My Android Studio build should be totally isolated from my inbox. I kn…

Are you using gnome?

And a slow hard disk is often the bottleneck, in case of windows.

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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I need 27 seconds on Firefox 52.9 ESR (Debian) and about 20,287 kbyte of data transferred in 148 requests just to reach an idle GMail tab. What is all this stuff even doing?

I ended up going to Thunderbird for my main email addresses (work & personal), with Rainmail for quasi-disposable addresses on my various domains. Works much better than Gmail did towards the end of my years using Gmail.

I have to use Thunderbird for work and I wish it was 1% as good as Gmail. The search sucks, it's slow to receive mail, it crashes quite often. Either your Gmail is profoundly broken or you have a magic Thunderbird. In case the latter is true: do you have any tips to optimise Thunderbird?

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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I just kind of figured we'd stop having UI lag by now. I work on a 24 core workstation with 64GB of RAM and things lag all the time. Not slow to complete, like jittery key entry and non-responses. Haven't we figured out thread prioritization by now? Can't we make sure something draws 60 times per second while things are going on in the background? My Android Studio build should be totally isolated from my inbox. I kn…

The "C++, threads and locks" programming model is inherently performance-unpredictable, since a high priority thread can't interrupt a low priority thread holding a lock to a contended resource. The field has made progress in "figuring out" the general problem in the form of other programming models but that stuff is not close to gaining popularity on the desktop. Things like STM, lockless peristent data structures,…

Yeah,the only sane way to do parallelism is message passing. (preferably using zmq)

Re: 24-core CPU and I can’t type an email

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I just kind of figured we'd stop having UI lag by now. I work on a 24 core workstation with 64GB of RAM and things lag all the time. Not slow to complete, like jittery key entry and non-responses. Haven't we figured out thread prioritization by now? Can't we make sure something draws 60 times per second while things are going on in the background? My Android Studio build should be totally isolated from my inbox. I kn…

Didn't BeOS get this right? I too wonder why UI threads are still so obnoxiously tied to... everything else. Put UI in the fast lane! (At least until some bug tries to make a bajillion calls a second) Then I remembered how much more complicated it is to write proper multithreaded GUI code :P

I remember Safari in the iPhone 3G would ALWAYS scroll even if it meant showing a checkerboard pattern while the page rendering caught up.
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