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Re: Smoking around the world

#81

One of the few things I despised about traveling in Europe was people smoking inside like it was the 70's. Almost lost it over a couple puffing away in the dairy section of the super market, managed to keep my mouth shut. Shame because I otherwise loved my time there.

You're spreading disinformation.

Re: Smoking around the world

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't inhale when smoking cigars right?

Generally not, but I will typically inhale on occasion. Sure that isn't 100 percent healthy but it's infrequent.

If you get cancer on your lips, tongue or cheeks you’ll notice it quickly and you can just cut them off. You’re probably not going to die from that.

Re: Smoking around the world

#83

While I quit daily smoking years ago I will never give up cigars. Even my doctor has zero issues with that. According to the CDC there is essentially no risk even smoking up to five a day. I am definitely substantially lower than that though.

> According to the CDC there is essentially no risk even smoking up to five a day

No risk or unknown risks? Last I looked into it there was no research on the health effects of smoking < 5 cigarettes a day either.

Re: Smoking around the world

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In some areas the percentage of unvaccinated is quite high. See this map of anti-vaxxers by county http://rpubs.com/markdg/AntivaxxerHotspots It uses the Personal Belief Exemption for school children as a proxy for the general population of anti-vaxxers. So arguably a bit inaccurate.

Colour me highly in accurate! I sit not just corrected, but fairly shocked.

I was also a bit shocked when I saw how high the Personal Belief Exemption was in some counties. Above 5% unvaccinated pretty much destroys herd immunity. So most of northern California is a no-go zone for people who appreciate the value of herd immunity.

What I have not seen, but would like to, is data for other states.

Re: Smoking around the world

#85
What's going on in Indonesia? Men are increasingly smoking like chimneys, while the rest of the world is more or less on the same downward trend.

It only being men also suggests it isn't a suddent economic change like lifting tobacco taxes. Some cultural change suddenly made it cool for only men to smoke (again).

Is Mad Men running on every channel?

Re: Smoking around the world

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven’t seen any numbers, but I would have thought tiny minority would be more accurate?

In some areas the percentage of unvaccinated is quite high. See this map of anti-vaxxers by county http://rpubs.com/markdg/AntivaxxerHotspots It uses the Personal Belief Exemption for school children as a proxy for the general population of anti-vaxxers. So arguably a bit inaccurate.

So, overall, a tiny minority; sure, it's a somewhat less tiny minority in some counties (and a significant one in a few) but those are mostly very low population counties, too.

Re: Smoking around the world

#87
Mauritania in Africa had the highest number of cigarettes smoked every day in 2012 ( more than 40 a day ) but the number of deaths from tobacco smoking was in the lowest..

Is this skewed data or do a lot of people die there for other reasons?

Re: Smoking around the world

#88
post #25

In India they show vary serious warning message with photo on each cigarette box , but I did not see the same think in Japan (I am not sure about other countries)

Japan has no images warning of dangers of anything like that on boxes of cigarettes as far as I can tell (living here for several years) and there is much less a stigma around smoking compared to my home country (Australia).

Re: Smoking around the world

#89

Is that right that the USA has fewer smokers than New Zealand and Australia? New Zealand and Australia have made massive efforts to reduce their rates of smokers. They both have plain packaging, tobacco products aren't allowed to be visibly on sale (in New Zealand, they won't even tell you what they have, you have to guess and hope they have it in stock). They also have the most expensive tobacco in the world. A 25 p…

Do most places in NZ have indoor smoking bans? Many cities in the US have made it so smokers have to be outside, and a certain number of feet away from business entrances.

Re: Smoking around the world

#90

What's going on in Indonesia? Men are increasingly smoking like chimneys, while the rest of the world is more or less on the same downward trend. It only being men also suggests it isn't a suddent economic change like lifting tobacco taxes. Some cultural change suddenly made it cool for only men to smoke (again). Is Mad Men running on every channel?

I work in Indonesia a lot and that data makes sense.

Every man I know smokes. That's not an exaggeration. It's ridiculously cheap, and with incredibly low income for most of the population, its the only vice that's allowed for most people.

A couple of guys on an island in the middle of nowhere once said it helps with the mosquito's (they also keep large fires lit for the same reason) but not sure if anyone else thinks that.

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