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Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by krylon »

bauerd wrote: post #72
krylon wrote: post #31

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It's funny, but after four years on macOS, I returned to GNU/Linux about 16 months ago, and I have not looked back since. Okay, there are a few things I miss, but all in all, there was more I missed on macOS than I now miss on GNU/Linux. And I do not consider spending a weekend (or longer) to get my sound chip working fun any more. I am too old for that stuff. Maybe I just have a lucky hand picking hardware, but exce…

Don't you miss the trackpad? It's what keeps me from switching on the hardware side

I never owned a MacBook. My main desktop used to be a 2012 Mac Mini, with a standard PC keyboard and mouse.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by 21 »

peatmoss wrote: post #14

Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I look at it another way. Apple, as a company is failing to meet the needs of some of its users: - You can’t get an upgradable pro machine - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Every Hackintosh c…

If anyone remembers the long discussions at the start of 2000s in relation to music/video pirating, this is not "stealing", it's "intellectual property something something".

The content companies had giant advertising campaigns trying to brand this as "theft" or "stealing". Of course, when they sued someone they used the proper term: "IP violation"

I'm not arguing if it's acceptable or not, but it's not the same as theft which leaves the owner without the item.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by Gys »

peatmoss wrote: post #14

Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I look at it another way. Apple, as a company is failing to meet the needs of some of its users: - You can’t get an upgradable pro machine - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Every Hackintosh c…

My main (additional) consideration: to develop for any Apple platform its required to use MacOS. There is no alternative way for developing and publishing in Apple App Stores.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

fetus8 wrote: post #9
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #4

I'm still using the tower version of Mac Pro with High Sierra and it rocks. I upgraded RAM to 32 GB and the Xeon processors handle everything I throw at them. Opening it and changing drives is a pure pleasure. I really, really don't understand why Apple gave up on these towers and came up with something as inflexible as the current design.

Would you mind sharing the model num of the Mac Pro your using?

Mac Pro 3.1 from 2008 with 2 quad core Xeons at 2,8. You can get one of these very cheap (300 euro maybe if you buy the memory separately). As the other poster says, the only drawback is SATA2 disks speed.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by vinceguidry »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #77
dkonofalski wrote: post #50

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I run into this all the time with Windows users switching to a Mac. I do a lot of training for new users when it comes to using Macs and the Windows users are always the worst when compared to people learning for the first time because Windows users always want to do it "the Windows way" and so they get frustrated when all their right clicking doesn't pan out. They bought a Mac because they were frustrated by Windows…

> He could not get over the fact that everything was flat and that he couldn't view his folder structure and was so frustrated because he couldn't find anything. It took me days to get the point across to him that a library system was much more powerful than a strict hierarchy because he could tag sounds with multiple keywords instead of just relying on his memory to remember which folder he had put a particular clip…

> Right, so he had his workflow organized in a particular way that worked for him, but rather than allow him to work like that his computer forced him into a workflow management paradigm and then you told him it was better that way and he should just accept it.

You can't opt out of strong opinionation when it comes to operating systems or applications in general, sadly.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by vinceguidry »

bdcravens wrote: post #54
ironjunkie wrote: post #6

I really don't get it. The biggest appeal of Apple is their wonderful hardware. I dislike MacOS and it has been worse over the last years. It seems to me that a Hackintosh is the worst of both worlds. If you spend that much time hacking around the hardware anyways, why not use Linux ?

I wouldn't call their latest generation of MBPs wonderful. I've had weird video issues with both machines I've had (2016 and 2017 models). Touchbar is a novelty. Initially used TouchID, but haven't for several months now. (using 1Password's browser extension that doesn't support it, and Apple Watch for unlocking the machine). Haven't had the keyboard issues, but I also dock so I rarely use the keyboard. I tried switc…

My main problem with multi-monitor on OSX is little mouse cursor freezes that happen every few seconds while I'm using it. I've searched and found that it had to do with multi-monitor but have yet to find a solution.

Compared to this Linux isn't all that bad. Took me a bit to find the magic xrandr invocation that would allow me to manage screen pseudo-brightness sanely. If I can find out the right way to put together a f.lux-style Night Mode I may switch to Linux on all machines.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by mbell »

berbec wrote: post #70
mbell wrote: post #59

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> Swappable batteries (on some models), I don't see the advantage, why would I pay the size / weight penalty? I don't use my machine long enough on battery in a single sitting to gain any benefit from extra batteries. > universally better keyboards (at the very least, more robust!), That is not an objective statement, its purely subjective. > usually far cheaper for far better internals, Not really, if you actually b…

> CPUs aren't advancing that fast and by the time you would want to upgrade the CPU there is a pretty good chance the new CPU requires a new chipset. This is true in intel land, but AMD has kept compatible mobos for many, many cycles now. Ryzen is the first forced refresh, and I'd say you should be very willing to pay the extra to go from Bulldozer to Zen

> This is true in intel land, but AMD has kept compatible mobos for many, many cycles now.

Not really, AM3+ only supported Bulldozer and Piledriver. _Some_ AM3 boards could support these CPUs, but not all that many and only at certain TDPs. It's basically the same deal as intel, you get about 2 cycles per chipset, it's just that AMD didn't release anything new for quite a long time.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by bobwaycott »

hellisothers wrote: post #68
e12e wrote: post #57

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> Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I don't feel a moral obligation not to steal from Apple. I'm not sure I could steal (and use) an amount from them that would impact them at all. I mean even if I stole a classroom full of MacBook pro's in order to give free programming classes - it's not like it would affect Apple in any meaning…

What does “never be able to run a legally licensed os” mean in this context? I am an iOS engineer and avid photographer: I work on a Hackintosh, I develop my photos on my Hackintosh. I’ve had 0 problems with this setup and it cost me 1/10th as much as a similarly specced Mac. And my “similar” I’m being generous to the Mac because my machine is faster

I’m guessing they’re referring to the fact that Apple’s EULA prohibits—or prohibited at one time, I believe it still does—running macOS on anything other than Apple hardware. Hence, a Hackintosh violates the EULA.

Not saying it’s bad or not. I despise EULAs. I think that’s what the parent means, though.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by jimnotgym »

krylon wrote: post #46
fredley wrote: post #15

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I hate MacOS and the way it's getting worse every release, but I don't hate it nearly as much as Windows, and how much Windows is getting worse every release.

> I don't hate it nearly as much as Windows, and how much Windows is getting worse every release. As much as I try to maintain a fair and balanced point of view, that is a pretty low standard to meet. I work as a sysadmin at a windows shop (~75 clients), and I regularly have to deal with stuff that would make run away screaming if my trusty old GNU/Linux desktop gave me that kind of trouble. Handling updates for Wind…

I wonder start makes your setup so fragile? We have a similar number of Windows machines, and we would be doing nothing in IT this week if we were just answering support calls.

We use WSUS for updates, and barely have to touch it?

Again I don't have any problem with licensing. I tell a reseller what I want and review their response. No big deal?

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by suprfnk »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #37
peatmoss wrote: post #14

Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I look at it another way. Apple, as a company is failing to meet the needs of some of its users: - You can’t get an upgradable pro machine - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Every Hackintosh c…

I really don't get why I would want to run an operating system where the vendor refuses to support my hardware. Also, the font color on this blog is absolutely horrible.

> the font color on this blog is absolutely horrible.

Yeah, I've noticed more sites do this. Super annoying. I made this bookmark for those cases:

    javascript:(()=>{document.querySelectorAll("p,div,article,section,ul,ol,li").forEach(x=>{x.style["color"]="black";});})();
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