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Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slack deprecated their IRC and XMPP gateways, so its no longer an IRC client.

And it never was an IRC client, there was just a somewhat limited bridge you could use to connect your IRC client into Slack network, but never vice-versa.

Slack is inspired by irc and uses irc's core approach of channels, usernames, messaging, bots, and more.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

#82

IRC will never get popular again. Server-based history and connections shared across devices are just too useful.

Is there a proposal to build in IPFS auto pinning of history to each user in IRC?

That way you could have full history of the channel provided someone remains in the channel or keeps it pinned.

Maybe it's an entirely new protocol but it seems that we don't need a centralized server to fulfill your requirements now.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

#83
post #69

IRC will never get popular again. Server-based history and connections shared across devices are just too useful.

In practice this is very easy to achieve with IRC if you just use a BNC or otherwise have a client always running, for example inside of tmux. A lot of IRC users run their client inside of tmux, then they attach to it from any device, desktop, laptop, or phone, anywhere they are. It has all the same connections, history, etc. Of course I mean 'very easy' for someone who is used to the technical side of things. A norm…

> Of course I mean 'very easy' for someone who is used to the technical side of things. A normal user of GUI webapps likely isn't interested.

Then it's not "very easy". It's "mildly complicated" at best. For IRC to succeed it needs to actually be very easy for all users, going down to very basic users who likely have never even heard of the terminal, let alone touched it.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

#85

https://matrix.org is essentially a modern IRC, but federated and completely FOSS. I suggest people drawn to an IRC-like experience without the proprietary nature of Slack and Discord [give it a shot]( https://riot.im ).

You know that IRC is FOSS as well right?

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

#87

IRC will never get popular again. Server-based history and connections shared across devices are just too useful.

Not only that, but passionate IRC people still hold onto the belief that things like TLS are "useless"[1] 1. https://www.quakenet.org/articles/99-trust-is-not-transitive...

Your link went dead. I would greatly appreciate actually being able to read this article.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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post #11

I can fairly say that it was IRC that introduced me to the coding world (where I learned to code TCL scripts for Eggdrops) when I was in high school and made me decide to switch my major to Computer Science after my first semester as a Graphic Design student (which I only chose because my brother had switched off Internet access from me for a few months which affected my judgment apparently)

I'm of a generation after you, likely, but I'm in the same boat. I learned python by maintaining an IRC bot, which started out rolling d20s. It then expanded into a 1000+ line monstrosity, which was a mess, but the features taught me many aspects of programming, and let me apply it. The bot has since been rewritten into much, much cleaner code, and is one of a few projects I'm proud of. All thanks to RFC1459.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…

he seems to be purchasing influence/control by offering "jobs" to the people in charge of various IRC projects, publicly: freenode[1], kiwiirc[2] (and presumably snoonet) -- I've been told there are others (not public info)

he's also brought on board the disgraced mt. gox CEO as CTO -- what on earth is he up to?

[1] https://freenode.net/news/pia-fn: "Some of you might also find yourselves dealing with me in my new role as Director of Sponsorship and Events at Private Internet Access"

[2] https://kiwiirc.com/blog/Kiwi_IRC_gets_sponsored_by_PrivateI...

[3] https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/04/19/disgraced-ceo-of-mt-gox-a...

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

#90

Long live IRC There will always be new platforms like slack, discord, gitter, and whatever. IRC was and still is great. IRC is simple, its text, its stable. Its simple to program on and a lot can be done above it. IRC is open. The basis of old internet protocols are simple, open and powerful Email, IRC, HTML, FTP And as the article points out, irc has no face. IRC was a time people had to ask for a picture. Different…

IRC is and always will be, the greatest social network :)
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