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Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Let me provide you an alternative perspective worth considering. Depending on the seriousness of your condition, having adenoids can result in having problems breathing normally( aka through the nose). Now obviously breathing is very important for your organism, and it will find ways to adapt, and you will find yourself breathing through your mouth.

Breathing through the mouth will encourage the development of a long face, cus tongue is not in its natural position, at the top of the palate. Your posture will change since having the mouth open is not the default position of the body for long periods of time. You might find your neck lunging forward. And these are just second and third order effects for not being to breathe properly during early childhood.

Jaws might not develop properly, teeth as well. And that is all the effects I know about.

Yes, I've had both my adenoids and tonsils removed, in the end. Not early enough though.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

#82

Just to add to the anecdotes in here. I had my tonsils removed at about the age of three and never suffered any particular consequences.

For perspective. I had horrible health that plagued me until I was about 20. Whether that's got anything to do with the butchering, I have no idea.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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My son had adenoids removed last year because his hearing was VERY bad because of some kind of mucus blockage. Doctors explained to us that he would hear perfectly without the adenoids, because inner ear measurements were very good. So during the OP they cut away the adenoids, and made a hole into each eardrum, so fluids could exit. After the OP his hearing was so good that he told us not to scream at him when we bar…

Sorry to hear you're going through this. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be. Are you concerned about side effects from all these interventions? Do you have a hypothetical point at which you would simply choose to accept your child's hearing impairment?

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Thank you so much for posting this. Really, THANK YOU, kind stranger. Here in the Czech Republic we're always forced by doctors to do AE/TE to our son despite being mildly affected by strep as we are fighting PANDAS. The latest research converges on that AE/TE is not effective, and that we're doing the right thing by not doing the operation. It looks like doctors even in the most advanced medical institutions are bli…

We went to a really good Ear nose throat doctor in San Diego hospital because our son had a long lasting runny nose, and they also told us to remove his tonsils and adenoids. I did not want to have them removed because of the involvement of sleep drugs necessary for operation, so we tried multiple ways to find the issue of the running nose, turned out it was something to do with the oil vaporizer they used in his pre…

You've piqued my curiosity. Why would a preschool have an oil vaporizer?

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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We went to a really good Ear nose throat doctor in San Diego hospital because our son had a long lasting runny nose, and they also told us to remove his tonsils and adenoids. I did not want to have them removed because of the involvement of sleep drugs necessary for operation, so we tried multiple ways to find the issue of the running nose, turned out it was something to do with the oil vaporizer they used in his pre…

You've piqued my curiosity. Why would a preschool have an oil vaporizer?

For smell. You can get Glade plugins or on the essential oils side a diffuser. We have used both in our family.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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This does not tie in with my experience as someone who had those removed at age 6. This winter for example, everyone in our household had nasty chest infections except me.

Anecdotal data is not a good source of medical advice.

It think their entire study is based on the collection of such 'anecdotes'.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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> Massage doesn’t cure tonsillectomy Tonsillectomy is prevented by figuring out why the tonsils are becoming inflamed in the first place. I said "bodywork (massage/etc)" because most people aren't familiar with the different kinds of bodywork that were developed over the course of the 20th century. I would place the emphasis on "etc". Massage is a general treatment, while other forms of manual therapy are more specif…

that would not be an obvious bow to draw from your comments, and frankly, and medical practitioners who are not looking at holistic health when presented with a patient are missing the point. However, you are so far off point on the tonsillectomy. Let's take a slightly different condition. A patient has gallstones, causing ascending colangitis. The treatment (which you would describe as treating only the symptoms) is…

> slinging mud on my profession I can not sit idly by and abide

Now I know why you thought the parent's comments were emotional. The world would be a better place if we all tried to stop seeing personal attacks where they don't exist.

For the record, your disagreement could likely be bridged by removing absoluteness. You could likely agree that "some doctors sometimes treat symptoms, not causes". And we all agree that's a problem to be solved.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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> I sincerely hope the circumstances in the Czech Republic are better and that the doctors are much less overworked and much more capable of helping you I'm not an author of the parent comment, but i also live in the Czech Republic and can say that no, It's not any better. And based on a stories which my friends living in other countries telling me, I starting to suspect that the whole world health care system "made…

I am very happy about the professionalism and the humanity of Italian doctors and the Italian national healthcare service. Of course there are problems, waiting lists, lack of funding. But damn, it's good and (mostly) free. I feel lucky. Perhaps there are regional differences, but in my city, it's really good.

What do you base your judgment on? I think it heavily depends on what you needed services for thus far. I know people who thought just like you - until they themselves or a relative really needed them. Then they changed their opinion. But even then it depends on what exactly the issue is, I know at least one serious cancer case who got everything they could and then some for free - and they had money and shopped around, incl. specialists in the US checking out if it was worth going there for private consultations paid out of their own pocket, who told them they had top specialists right in front of them near where they lived (in Germany, a university clinic).

I think variance is big and individual examples are useless unless you have the exact same problem in the exact same locality as someone else. But I think it's safe to say that anything falling outside standardized diagnosis may not work out so great. I had to do my own research myself and beat a professor's (of medicine) prediction and amazed a few other doctors with "miracles", but I did not actually do anything special, just what I thought was kind of obvious after some research. When you fall into one of the many blind spots your experience will be bad, if you fall into one of the categories which are "standard" you'll probably be one of those people who are very satisfied by what the system provides.

One has to understand how doctors are trained and what the system they work in forces them to do (and what not to do). Once you understand that you may get more satisfaction. For example, doctors prefer treating immediate problems. If you come with a long and varied history, they don't have a time for that, and often they would not know what conclusions to draw anyway - the body is complex and even if they had a hunch, the more possibilities there are the harder it is to diagnose. Also, expectations of expectations: Doctors know (sometimes learned the hard way) that people expect miracles or at least solutions from them when in reality they themselves often don't know.

Finding the cause of a problem may take months or even years of commitment (in retrospect, after a diagnosis, it's always clear of course, "why didn't we think of that sooner"). Few patients have the resources, the patience(!) and will to slowly and iteratively work on a problem, especially when success is highly uncertain. I only solved the one I myself had because I took some very radical steps that set me back income-wise for a decade at least and cost me a few social connections. The majority of people would have gone with "placebos", symptom-covering "solutions" for immediate problems, instead of choosing the great uncertainty (and when I started it was very uncertain indeed and everybody advised me to be "reasonable" and not throw my life away to chase ghosts but listen to the doctors). If I was a doctor I would never treat someone like me - because it would be highly unlikely that the person would be as extreme as I was and give up so much of their current life for very uncertain future benefit. So what doctors offer also is a mirror of what patients expect and are willing to invest (and I don 't mean money, the time and effort under uncertainty is much harder to bear).

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By the way, my tonsils disappeared by themselves! I went to nose and throat specialists a few times during the last decade because during my long recovery I had plenty of throat issues. At some point they wondered why my tonsils where so tiny, and during the last appointment last year or so I was asked when they had been removed - they weer gone. I never had surgery, and I'm sure I still had them a decade ago. No use asking, nobody knows what happened. They were definitely never removed (or the doctor three years ago would not still have found them to be unusually small, and the next one three years later that they were not there at all).

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Only barely related but I have a personal story about this! I had my tonsils removed at eleven years old. I didn't know why then, and I still don't now. I suffer quite a bit now from allergies (I'm not sure how related to this it is, and I guess I've no way of knowing really). I remember being really scared, and the surgeon playfully telling me that I'd be fine, I'd be asleep through the whole thing and would wake up…

Wow... it sounds like you were tested by the Gom Jabbar.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Any relation between tonsils and your ex's gender/personality ("She was an emotional wreck") is nonsense. Don't post sexist stuff like that here.

There's nothing sexist about it. She was a mess, I helped her deal with her problems, she greatly appreciates the help. My point was that people's presentations have a context. She was an emotional wreck because of all the different kinds of "stress" that she was dealing with -- unresolved "birth trauma" (umbilical cord wrapped around her neck), "adverse childhood experiences", etc. Her tonsils were extracted because…

Do you're saying bad childhood experiences caused emotional trauma caused her tonsils to be inflamed?

I'm looking for a better explanation but can't find one. I don't think your comments are sexist, but they do seem illogical.

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