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Japan Fights Crowds of Crows (2008)

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Re: Japan Fights Crowds of Crows (2008)

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post #55

Around here it's Pigeons, but they seem to occupy the same niche as these Crows. Part of the problem is that not only are they good scavengers, but some people actively feed them causing not only a huge mess (piles of rotting bread dumped on the pavements), but it encourages the birds to congregate and multiply.

Can't we just make pigeons and crows kill each other somehow?

Let them run for office?

Re: Japan Fights Crowds of Crows (2008)

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Around here it's Pigeons, but they seem to occupy the same niche as these Crows. Part of the problem is that not only are they good scavengers, but some people actively feed them causing not only a huge mess (piles of rotting bread dumped on the pavements), but it encourages the birds to congregate and multiply.

Pigeons aren't even native to North America, but they're so well suited to urban environments it's doubtful they're going anywhere. A week or two ago I guess it was mating season because I saw a bunch of them doing courtship dances.

North America once had a native pigeon, with an estimated population of 3-5 billion. They were driven to extinction due to hunting and habitat loss.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pigeon

Re: Japan Fights Crowds of Crows (2008)

#83

Around here it's Pigeons, but they seem to occupy the same niche as these Crows. Part of the problem is that not only are they good scavengers, but some people actively feed them causing not only a huge mess (piles of rotting bread dumped on the pavements), but it encourages the birds to congregate and multiply.

Not sure why I was voted down here. Do we have some closet pigeon feeders on hacker news?

Re: Japan Fights Crowds of Crows (2008)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pigeons aren't even native to North America, but they're so well suited to urban environments it's doubtful they're going anywhere. A week or two ago I guess it was mating season because I saw a bunch of them doing courtship dances.

North America once had a native pigeon, with an estimated population of 3-5 billion . They were driven to extinction due to hunting and habitat loss. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pigeon

Right. But usually pigeon means rock dove.

Re: Japan Fights Crowds of Crows (2008)

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post #19

Dealing with these crows seems like it would be a good computer-vision/ML/AI/data/drone/"weapons" problem. Killing baby crows in the nest in Tokyo a la [1] would necessarily remain human work, but open-air operations could be done with drones. Would there be a non-lethal approach to harassing crows that would drive them away? If a program chooses the lethal approach, what weapons and disposal methods? How much would…

There are much easier and much more natural solutions. Chief among these is employing Falcons, which are like drones except they're alive, much faster than crows or drones, and incentivized (by food).

Sometimes you don't need a technological solution, sometimes what we already have is good enough and it doesn't get much better than simply using the existing circle of life.

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