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Letting go of the GPS to learn the art of natural navigation

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Re: Letting go of the GPS to learn the art of natural navigation

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I've got no sense of direction. Zero. I can get lost in my own office or go the wrong way down a street I've been down 100 times.

Still, I've noticed that because I bike and walk around when I can I'm much more able to get around San Francisco than most of my friends. You just use a much larger and more generalizable set of "clues" to get around. When you use GPS there's no decision making so you never really learn why you turned on Street X not Street Y.

Re: Letting go of the GPS to learn the art of natural navigation

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Once I was travelling through Morocco and the general advice I got from other turists even before the trip was “don’t trust the gps”. It turned out the medinas (old towns) themselves were so densly packed, that you could not see much of the sky to get any lock on satellites, and the internet coverage was very spotty. And you “had” to learn how to read paper maps, because otherwise you’d fall pray to the many “tourist…

I haven't been in all medinas of Morocco, but never had a problem with GPS there, have you actually tried to use it? :) I think the only place where I really had a problem were Caruggi of Genoa. One tip to have a better location awareness with electronic map is to enable trip recording, if you see your previous way you can sort of continue walking "inertially".

It was more like swimming in deep waters - sometimes you get to an area with a big enough opening that you get satellite lock in, get your bearings and can once again “dive”. But not using gps at all was a lot more fun though

Re: Letting go of the GPS to learn the art of natural navigation

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Something I loved about living in Bogota, was how easy it was to navigate there. The whole city was built on a grid, with the east-west streets increasing in number as you went north. And the North-south streets increasing in number as you go east to west. There is a mountain range to the east, so if you can see the mountains, and know what streets you're on, you can always find your way

Something i love about much of Tokyo is many of the streets curve and twist which makes walking around feel like an adventure of things to be discovered vs just a utility of getting from here to there. I agree curvy street cities are harder to navigate but I find them much more romantic.

Venice is also like this. Unless youre following the canal, the city itself is a twisty little maze of passages, all unique.

Re: Letting go of the GPS to learn the art of natural navigation

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I'd love some kind of GPS mode that just gave the most important or trickiest directions, then was completely silent for the rest of the trip. I know how to get out of my neighborhood and onto the northbound freeway. I'll never need directions to do this. I know I'll be driving for 30 minutes. I just need the exit to take when it's coming up, and a few tricky turns near the destination. Just give me that and I'll fig…

Try turning off the sound in your map app. That way you can ignore the steps you already know and look at your phone whenever you need directions.

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Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear mentioned in passing, that you should always program your navigation device so that north is up, not direction of travel is up, and (in his typical hyperbolic manner) "you'll never get lost again.". I liked this tip, it shows me the general direction I'm going (east/west/south), not "up" through an unfamiliar geography that morphs when you turn.

Oh my, I find it so annoying when maps in public places don't have north up. Usually when I'm in a new place, before leaving my hotel I look at the map and I remember where to go, which turn to take etc. There only problem is metro - I don't know which exit to take, so I always check the map of the area at the metro station. So I look at the map, I know the street I'm going to is in the south, but I cannot find it. O…

Those maps are usually orientated so that the direction you're looking at them is how things are laid out.

From traveling in different countries, I've learned to first look for the compass rose before assuming north is up.

Re: Letting go of the GPS to learn the art of natural navigation

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Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear mentioned in passing, that you should always program your navigation device so that north is up, not direction of travel is up, and (in his typical hyperbolic manner) "you'll never get lost again.". I liked this tip, it shows me the general direction I'm going (east/west/south), not "up" through an unfamiliar geography that morphs when you turn.

Maps that always rotate with you are the bane of my existence. I don't understand why would anyone want such a catastrophe. Luckily, you can lock north on top in most apps.

Re: Letting go of the GPS to learn the art of natural navigation

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Looking at the title, I guessed this would be an article about Tristan Gooley, and yes, it was - I read "The Walker's Guide to Outdoor Clues & Signs" and it was both entertaining and informative. If you do outdoor activities, it is a nice supplement (even if you keep using GPS etc). Just parsing the environment a bit better is so much fun and kind of deepens the experience. I recently started to watch the birds as we…

Tristan Gooley was interviewed on the Rough Guide podcast late last year: https://pca.st/RvTf I found his approach to staying oriented fascinating.

Re: Letting go of the GPS to learn the art of natural navigation

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Counterpoint: the automatic ice-maker

I'm very confused and interested. What do you mean by that?

No more fighting over who took the last of the ice (especially if someone took from the wrong tray or did not refill an empty - you monster).

Although the iceman interpretation works too ;)

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Oh my, I find it so annoying when maps in public places don't have north up. Usually when I'm in a new place, before leaving my hotel I look at the map and I remember where to go, which turn to take etc. There only problem is metro - I don't know which exit to take, so I always check the map of the area at the metro station. So I look at the map, I know the street I'm going to is in the south, but I cannot find it. O…

Barcelona is one place where this happens. The coast goes SW - NE but many maps are aligned to make it look going north - south. We got lost once trying to navigate west :)

Ha. Can't believe someone mentioned Barcelona. Went to London and a few other European cities and my cheapo-wrist compass made it so easy to navigate.

Then we reached Barcelona, where every damn road is at a 45 degree angle! Argh. It's not trivial -- at least when you've had several sangrias -- to stand at an intersection, facing NE, and then try to figure out whether to turn left or right to go SE. (Yes, yes... In sure someone here will reply as to how simple it all is... But, keep in mind the sangrias...)

Re: Letting go of the GPS to learn the art of natural navigation

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Something i love about much of Tokyo is many of the streets curve and twist which makes walking around feel like an adventure of things to be discovered vs just a utility of getting from here to there. I agree curvy street cities are harder to navigate but I find them much more romantic.

Venice is also like this. Unless youre following the canal, the city itself is a twisty little maze of passages, all unique.

Twisty little maze of cabbages, all alike. Sorry, OT, couldn't resist.
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