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Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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Re: Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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4 of 5 of the biggest tech company founders were in their early 20s. So the biggest ideas clearly slanted towards young visionary founders, but the statistics do skew back towards older founders for all but the largest companies.

Shocking I know, but there are many industries besides tech.

Re: Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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I'm curious to know what are the things you've been thinking about working on? I've experienced the challenge of finding a co-founder in my immediate circle but looking beyond that, there are plenty of potentials. I know a startup called Wagepoint that started with a co-founders from vastly different age groups.

I started working on recording meetings and converting the recordings to meeting minutes with actionable items. Not a trivial task. My idea was to build an iPhone app with ML in the cloud. I did some initial market survey and found no takers for this idea. I spoke to startups, mid-enterprises and even law firms. I got one positive response from a VC who said this could be useful in tracking the meetings he has with f…

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Re: Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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I would like to see the data broken down by startup profile. I suspect that the ideal age differs between B2B and B2C startups. B2C have smaller chance of success, but the success is bigger. Ideal B2C founder is young. Most of enormous tech successes (e.g. Facebook, Google) are B2C companies founded by founders before 30. B2B have higher chance of success, but the success is smaller. Ideal B2B founder is middle-aged.…

Please provide examples of B2C success that are other than Apple, Google or Facebook founded by people under 30. (No, Microsoft is B2B.)

Jeff Bezos was 29 when he decided to quit his full time job and 30 when he founded Amazon. Close enough?

Re: Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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4 of 5 of the biggest tech company founders were in their early 20s. So the biggest ideas clearly slanted towards young visionary founders, but the statistics do skew back towards older founders for all but the largest companies.

Apple's true success came with Second Steve i.e. mature Steve, not first Steve. Amazon, Oracle, Intel founders weren't in their 20s. Microsoft, Google, and Facebook indeed were started by young founders. Twenty years later Google might be the only meaningful one standing. Time will tell.

As I mentioned elsewhere, Bezos was 29 when he quit his full time job and 30 when he wrote up the business plan for Amazon. I think that's close enough for this argument.

Re: Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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I honestly can't understand why this would shock anyone with experience in engineering. As a senior developer, I'm vastly more able to realize ideas than I was even three years ago. I also know vastly more. I'm able to understand cutting-edge systems and language research that I couldn't before. I'm able to design systems quickly and more reliably. I'm able to separate good ideas from bad ideas more reliably. I'm bet…

The youth buzz has nothing to do with engineering potential. Young people tend to be more free of external responsibilities: marriage, children, job contracts, consumer debt, professional associations, expensive educational entanglements, and so forth. This makes young people more available to take giant risks with less apprehension (they have less to lose). There is also giant marketing buzz when an uneducated 18 ye…

I used to think the same way but what I have witnessed over the years is that my entrepreneur friends who are married with children tend to be just as risk taking as young single ones.

I feel entrepreneurship is a mentality. Entrepreneurs will always take risk where they see opportunity. The risk just seems to become less foolhardy as they get older. No stats on this just an observation.

Re: Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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I honestly can't understand why this would shock anyone with experience in engineering. As a senior developer, I'm vastly more able to realize ideas than I was even three years ago. I also know vastly more. I'm able to understand cutting-edge systems and language research that I couldn't before. I'm able to design systems quickly and more reliably. I'm able to separate good ideas from bad ideas more reliably. I'm bet…

Yes, but you also already have a more limited idea space, because you are not really trying crazy ideas, while the young think everything's possible.

Re: Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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I agree but there's probably a limit on that sentiment. If you start a family you are likely to become more risk adverse, this would increase again as you approach retirement.

True, but ~45 may be a golden age again. By then your kids may be starting to becoming self sufficient, retirement is still 20 years off, and you've lived through a fair number of financial problems. Your retirement plans might be coming together and the world is starting to look more rosey. Plus, you find yourself feeling like you're nearing the end of your "youth"; you're aged but you still feel good. Perhaps you b…

I'm 37 and absolutely cannot imagine myself working for the man for another 30+ years. I can't seem to last more than 2-3 years at any one job before becoming bored out of my skull. My present position, which I've been at for ~6 months, already has me mired deep in ennui (It was utterly unchallenging from day 1 - but the pay is great).

I want nothing more than to quit and strike out on my own, but financial obligations (kids, mortgage, etc.) are holding me back. My wife doesn't understand why I make a comfortable six-figure salary but am so discontented with my career. Maybe I feel like I'm running out of time?

Re: Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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True, but ~45 may be a golden age again. By then your kids may be starting to becoming self sufficient, retirement is still 20 years off, and you've lived through a fair number of financial problems. Your retirement plans might be coming together and the world is starting to look more rosey. Plus, you find yourself feeling like you're nearing the end of your "youth"; you're aged but you still feel good. Perhaps you b…

I'm 37 and absolutely cannot imagine myself working for the man for another 30+ years. I can't seem to last more than 2-3 years at any one job before becoming bored out of my skull. My present position, which I've been at for ~6 months, already has me mired deep in ennui (It was utterly unchallenging from day 1 - but the pay is great). I want nothing more than to quit and strike out on my own, but financial obligatio…

+1 I could have written this exact same thing.

Re: Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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I can certainly concede that achieving "ramen profitability" while living off savings is substantially less exciting while trying to pay down a mortgage and save up for one's childrens' college tuition.

Any reason why the kids can’t pay for their own tuition? Isn’t that what government student loans are for?

I went to college on an ROTC scholarship, so that's another option (of course, you're an indentured servant to Uncle Sam for 8 years after graduating - that may or may not be worse than obligating yourself to lenders via student loans, depending on your perspective).

Re: Age and High-Growth Entrepreneurship

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Any reason why the kids can’t pay for their own tuition? Isn’t that what government student loans are for?

Federal Direct Student Loans, available to undergraduate students at a relatively low fixed rate (but still higher than say, a decent mortgage on a house), only allow a student to take out about $6000/year. But as college tuition skyrockets (mine is $70k/year, and increasing, and I have a brother at an equivalently priced institution too!), that wont cut it. The rest must either come from personal/family finances, be…

At some point enrollment at public universities should fall off a cliff (the prestigious institutions that serve mostly wealthy families will be fine, I'm sure). One would think...
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