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In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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bmpafa wrote: post #34
mainthread wrote: post #29

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Some people get life in prison for things they do at 19.

If they lacked the foresight to be born wealthy and enroll in an ivy league college, that's their fault. Cyni-casm aside, yours is a crucial point I think gets forgotten too often. Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. Obviously substantially different crimes, but the c…

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Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by adventured »

bookbinder wrote: post #55
hcnews wrote: post #37

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+1, I have absolutely zero confidence in Zuckerberg and Sandberg. The board should ask them to resign and appoint new people (obviously the most extreme ask from this scenario). As a user, I want facebook to stick around and be more useful to me in the future. Unfortunately I don't see the current people doing that.

Why include Sandberg? Isn't she generally considered a professional grown up providing adult supervision for Zuckerberg?

Sandberg appears to have vast culpability for the current mess. She was brought in in 2008 and given responsibility for Facebook's privacy department. [1]

As one example, because Sandberg was at least partially responsible for blocking attempts at reforming data policies inside of Facebook that likely made the Russia tampering mess worse. And then Facebook corporate attempted to cover that up by pushing the NY Times to alter its reporting:

https://lawandcrime.com/exclusive/facebook-forces-nyt-to-qui...

Further, Sandberg was the core architect behind Facebook's ad business and shift to aggressive monetization. She was brought in from Google precisely for that reason, that's why Facebook recruited her from there.

[2008] "Ms. Sandberg, currently vice president for global online sales and operations at Google, joined the search giant in 2001 and helped develop its immensely lucrative online advertising programs, AdWords and AdSense."

"She will also oversee Facebook’s marketing, human resources and privacy departments — essentially guiding how Facebook presents itself and its intentions to the outside world."

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/technology/04cnd-facebook...

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by tgragnato »

r3bl wrote: post #22
danielrhodes wrote: post #12

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Maybe nothing, but in practice this would be hard to do. Access to this data would amount to material support from a company to a presidential campaign which under campaign finance laws would need to be reported and scrutinized. Additionally, Facebook is not just Mark Zuckerberg and likely the company would not like the data being used that way because it would risk their relationship with their users, which is far m…

I get what you're saying, but considering what we've witnessed in 2016 and how ethics, honestly and law no longer plays any part in the White House, what used to be unimaginable to me, now is. That being said, I could see the future in which the next elections are a full blown, all-gloves-are-off one year long fight between Trump (Republicans) and Zuckerberg (Democrats). Partially because Zuckerberg really does seem…

In other comments people are stating that Mark was a different person back then, but that he doesn't seem to have learnt from his mistakes.

Assuming that's going to happen. What do you think would be a realistic response to the simple critique "American people deserve better" ?

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by raarts »

sangnoir wrote: post #57
user982 wrote: post #50

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> Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. You misread this, likely because that would have made more sense than what actually occurred. The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death…

> The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death. What the actual fuck? Then again, I can't say I'm suprised that it's in Alabama.

The Alabama slur was uncalled for, but still ... what the actual fuck? 'Interesting' interpretation of justice indeed.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by zeth___ »

gabept wrote: post #74

I'm not in defense of Zuckerberg, but I have seen and fortunately stopped some young entrepreneurs doing atrociously invasive things in order to better understand and expand their product. I don't think this is necessarily a case of wickedness, but instead lack of knowledge and immaturity when the event happened.

Going into someone else's email to read what they have to say about you is something that even a three year old knows is wrong.

If you have dealings with people like that and you're helping them don't be surprised when you find out they have used their money to open a child rape hotel somewhere in the developing world.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by cmurf »

Ergo, a long history of double standards and hypocrisy.

Congresscritters on Tuesday are gonna set him on fire. Chances are that's all they do, unless setting him on fire brings about some actual political capital, and specific policies, to do something about facebook or privacy in general. But I think the critters have benefited from lax privacy laws, it's made them and their donor base wealthy and powerful, and a good deal of them will not want broad privacy protection for any number of reasons.

If their approval is around 10%, and Zuckerberg's is around 20% (estimates, but point being Zuck's is probably higher than Congress), they'll see making him look bad will at least in the short term make them look informed, sympathetic and serious. Even if they get a +1% for giving him a hard time, they'll see it as a win. It'll be a spectacle for fans of schadenfreude.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by zeth___ »

tudorconstantin wrote: post #28

What I don't understand is how the important leaders and influencers of the world, like Obama, or Bill Gates, or others, are not ashamed to show themselves near Zuckerberg. He started the whole Facebook with a theft from the Winklevoss brothers. That whole business is the fruit of theft. Yeah, he was young and stupid, but how many of you even considered doing such a thing to your employer? Yeah, he built a huge busin…

>What I don't understand is how the important leaders and influencers of the world, like Obama, or Bill Gates, or others, are not ashamed to show themselves near Zuckerberg.

Because they are just as shity as him. They just hide it better. Show me a rich person and I will show you a criminal.

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