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Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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Youtube videos are getting demonetized based on advertisers not wanting to be associated with certain things. However, watching online and TV coverage of the shooting where people were actually severely injured and someone died, there didn't seem to be a dearth of advertising. If advertisers don't mind being associated with death and destruction, I think that when push comes to shove advertisers care more about reach…

Advertisers don't mind having their ads shown next to all violent content, only to some violent (and some "controversial" content). Most advertisers won't mind being shown next to a major news channel, but they might mind being shown next to a gore channel, or a channel run by some more radical news organizations. It isn't the content, it's the message. And that's a hard problem. There's one episode of Mad Man that a…

I think we need to acknowledge that Nasim's content wasn't "gore" and wasn't even "obscene." At BEST it was just "bizarre" and yet I doubt similar content like Tim and Eric would get demonetized.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every shooter is mentally ill. In fact, most mentally ill people are more likely to be victims of violence than the perpetrators. Most shooters are just shitheads, not mentally ill, and to constantly conflate the two is to add additional stigma to mental illness. In addition, if this truly was a mental health problem, Congress could increase funding for mental health treatment by the end of the week, Trump could…

A very common factor in such mass murders is the use of antidepressants. Having seen up close what happens when someone on such medication misses a few doses (extreme & systematic rage), I'm stunned that there has not been intense investigation into the correlation.

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Re: Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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"We know that she was upset with YouTube; whether that rises to the level of terrorism will hopefully be determined in the coming weeks.” I was really shocked that she is not labeled terrorist yet! and here it is!

With her being from Iran, I'm also surprised the right hasn't already spun it that way, as a distraction from the gun control questions. Not saying she should though obv, she was angry at YouTube for demonetizing her videos. That's regular YouTube drama taken to the extreme by a crazy person, not someone part of a group waging jihad on the infidels.

It appears that the right is most interested in her anti-censorship motivations behind the attack.

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Yet another licensed and legal weapon.

99.9% of people obtaining a weapon legally don't use it to commit atrocities, but for entertainment. Why should the majority suffer the consequences from the tiny minority of unstable individuals?

Why should tens of thousands of people die every year for the sake of a hobby? Imagine if every year 30,000 D&D players stabbed themselves or someone else to death with a Longsword.

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99.9% of people obtaining a weapon legally don't use it to commit atrocities, but for entertainment. Why should the majority suffer the consequences from the tiny minority of unstable individuals?

Why should tens of thousands of people die every year for the sake of a hobby? Imagine if every year 30,000 D&D players stabbed themselves or someone else to death with a Longsword.

How about drivers? Pilots? Boaters? Drinkers?

We all do something dangerous and fairly antisocial. But only one of those things tends to be demonized.

Re: Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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While what this lady did was atrocious, it does highlight a big problem inside Youtube. That their completely biased, unfair demonetization system is costing people enough money in ad revenue to ruin online careers. Smaller channels and politically incorrect channels get flagged pretty much every video, while bigger, white listed channels that post clear ToS breaking content are still allowed to rake in ad money. Thi…

The great thing about YouTube is precisely that, in theory at least before questionable policies are applied, ANYONE can publish their video to the world and monetize accordingly. Understandable that anything less than standard "common carrier" conventions are expected by producers, and seemingly arbitrary/bigoted restrictions are distressing.

"Shouldn't exist" implies others having undue power over the destiny of others. You may not like certain content, but none of your business deciding that others shouldn't see it (beyond the likes of child porn). If what one does is sufficiently valuable to others, enjoy the career.

And the murderer has enough going against her legitimately (starting with being a murderer) without disparaging her looks. Not everyone is blessed with something better than "resting bitch face".

Re: Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should tens of thousands of people die every year for the sake of a hobby? Imagine if every year 30,000 D&D players stabbed themselves or someone else to death with a Longsword.

How about drivers? Pilots? Boaters? Drinkers? We all do something dangerous and fairly antisocial. But only one of those things tends to be demonized.

> We all do something dangerous and fairly antisocial. But only one of those things tends to be demonized.

Smoking? Skateboarding outside of private or dedicated places? Heck, even drinkers, from your list, are often demonized.

So, no, your “only one” is not accurate.

Re: Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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Luckily it was just a handgun. If it were an AR-15 it might've been a different story, as this radiologist who treated Parkland students noticed: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-...

I think you meant to say, if it had been a rifle. AR-15's don't posses special properties... anything shooting a .223 or 5.56 round will have similar properties. The damage truly depends on the type of ammunition used (as well as caliber). FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) ammunition, what seems to be described in the article you referenced, is a non-expanding type of ammunition, typically causing less destruction than expandi…

To add one other note, HP ammo has the additional (generally beneficial) property of penetrating significantly less than something like FMJ. Through its design it imparts the bulk of its kinetic energy on the first obstacle it hits, which greatly reduces the chances of it doing damage to something unintended.
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