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Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Post by Tepix »

wtallis wrote: post #73
Tepix wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's such a shame that when using OpenWRT everything runs as root...

OpenWRT is still trying to support devices with 8MB of storage, so they can't go overboard and start incorporating Docker or anything like that. But some services do run as separate users: on my routers, dnsmasq and avahi aren't running as root. What other services would you like to see isolated?

I didn't know that. Sounds like they are moving in the right direction. One important component that should not run as root is the web server.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Post by alfanick »

Tepix wrote: post #80
alfanick wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Process of certification is heavy on cash, need some weird certifications? Price of products will increase and customers will be hurt as a result (just to make some minor portion of customers happy).

I don't buy it. As long as their products aren't certified, I won't buy them. Besides when you look at the reviews on Amazon, some of their chargers allegedly catch fire or start to smell like burning plastic...

Their products are obviously CE certified and some of them are PSE certified. Good enough for me.

Edit: Needless to say, certifications are bullshit anyway, it's just a waiver for lawyers - Samsung Galaxy Note 7 had all possible certification, yet it was as more dangerous than any Anker product.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Post by ksec »

siruncledrew wrote: post #4

Damn, I didn't know Foxconn was the 4th larges IT company with 726k employees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_informatio...

The number doesn't seem right. Because I know Foxconn has over 1M employees, and at one point it was close to two million.

May be those numbers are Full time employees?

*And in case you are wondering if it is those foxconn robots taking jobs. No it is not. Not in any significant number.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Post by raverbashing »

luhn wrote: post #3

> You probably know Belkin for its various lines of accessories, peripherals, and assorted consumer electronics; Linksys, surely the most recognizable router brand, is a subsidiary. Apparently Cisco sold Linksys to Belkin in 2013. That's news to me.

Which is a shame because Belkin equipment was crap

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Post by wtallis »

Tepix wrote: post #81
wtallis wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenWRT is still trying to support devices with 8MB of storage, so they can't go overboard and start incorporating Docker or anything like that. But some services do run as separate users: on my routers, dnsmasq and avahi aren't running as root. What other services would you like to see isolated?

I didn't know that. Sounds like they are moving in the right direction. One important component that should not run as root is the web server.

Generally speaking, I agree that a web server shouldn't be running as root. But when the sole purpose of that web server is to provide root-level control over the system, is there really much security to be gained by running that process as a different user? That "unprivileged" process is still going to have some mechanism for causing arbitrary commands to run as root.

I can imagine that you might have an unprivileged server presenting just the log-in page, then proxying to a privileged server that is started once the administrator is authenticated. But that doesn't get you much more security, and it probably does strain the resources of low-end routers. A small, auditable server may be better than a more complicated system, especially since it is trivial for more paranoid users to disable/uninstall the web server and just use SSH (which nobody seems to mind running as root).

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Post by thomastjeffery »

duxup wrote: post #23
walrus01 wrote: post #16

The only good Belkin product I have ever seen is their 12 outlet power strip. As a network engineer everything they make with an Ethernet/wifi interface is complete shit. But this is not really news, D-Link, Netgear, many of their competitors are also junk.

Every Belkin product I owned was garbage... but just like you I ran across a couple power strips that are surprisingly good. I don't know if they bought someone who knew what they were doing with power strips or what, but .... i'm still using them.

To contrast, every Linksys product I have owned it fantastic, so long as you flash DD-WRT/tomato/etc.

My main complaint with Belkin is that you don't have that option.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Post by sitepodmatt »

Roritharr wrote: post #62
ieo2929 wrote: post #20

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Ubiquiti ftw After a brief romance with VyOS and RPi based APs, Ubiquiti came along and swept me off my feet Currently using their gear throughout a 300-ish person office. Easy to setup, no issues that weren’t our fault in the first place. Great kit for startup and growing type situations

We use the Ubiquity Stuff and are also mostly happy, but it's not really as Enterprise-Grade as it tries to sell itself as. We use the Ubiquity Security Gateway Pro and have for over a year now issues with it's WAN Fallback. In the beginning it simply wouldn't Fallback at all, after lot's of Customer Service and three patches it actually did it's thing, but since then whenever the fallback happened our whole connecti…

Yikes that is poor, you'd think they'd have at least a few big sites (not all on aws either) to validate connectivity problems against, or at least make it configurable. Doesn't Google have a connectivity validation site on an anycast ip replicate across their global DCs?

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Post by fwgwgwgch »

callmekatootie wrote: post #70
walrus01 wrote: post #16

The only good Belkin product I have ever seen is their 12 outlet power strip. As a network engineer everything they make with an Ethernet/wifi interface is complete shit. But this is not really news, D-Link, Netgear, many of their competitors are also junk.

I did not have any issues with their router. But that's not what I remember Belkin for: I was in conversation with their customer service on the phone and it disconnected. Frustrated, cause it meant I had to call them back and there was no guarantee that I would get the same agent again, I gave up calling them. However, in 5 minutes, I got a call back from them - the same agent called me back and did manage to resolv…

India or otherwise that's basically rare.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Post by Dirlewanger »

spiderPig wrote: post #5

It is a little disconcerting that Foxconn (subject to deep Chinese government overreach) will now own Linksys

Right? I know it's not completely analogous, but the federal government blocks a US company (Qualcomm) from buying another American company (Broadcom) over concerns about the Chinese somehow (which I still don't fully understand), but allows a Taiwanese company to buy an American network hardware division? I guess the government doesn't give a shit about consumer products.

Re: Foxconn buys Belkin for $866M

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Post by pc86 »

walrus01 wrote: post #16

The only good Belkin product I have ever seen is their 12 outlet power strip. As a network engineer everything they make with an Ethernet/wifi interface is complete shit. But this is not really news, D-Link, Netgear, many of their competitors are also junk.

What do you recommend for a simple home network with a few computers and mobile devices?
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