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Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

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Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

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Post by u801e »

JensRex wrote: post #77
u801e wrote: post #29

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I have the "Message Body As" setting set to plain text. This either will display the text/plain part of the message or will render the HTML using plain text markers (* * for bold, / / for italics, _ _ for underscore). IME, it works out rather well for most HTML emails I receive.

In which email client? I regularly get email that is almost impossible to read, unless I load remote images.

In Thunderbird. Most of the HTML email I receive is mostly formatted text which Thunderbird's plain text view works well on.

Are the problems you're describing due to content within the images themselves, or due to placement of the text relative to the image?

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

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Post by craftyguy »

b5 wrote: post #73
craftyguy wrote: post #59

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This doesn't really work if you have multiple systems you want to access your mail from. There's no way to keep those systems in sync with each other, some folks fake it with dropbox-like services, but that's honestly not much different than just pulling over imap each time you open the mta...

I use offlineimap[1] and it absolutely does work. It keeps everything on the IMAP server while giving me a local copy to work from. It's super simple to setup and use, and I'm really happy with it. [1]: http://www.offlineimap.org/

Interesting, I might have to give this another go. For my work mail, I use mbsync to store it locally, but I only have one system doing that. Personal email is a different matter, especially since some systems accessing it (e.g. my phone via K-9) would like to know if a mail has been read on another system (e.g. one storing mails locally). Does offlineimap handle that situation?

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

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Post by lucb1e »

cutler wrote: post #80
lucb1e wrote: post #52

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I read that as "I've been stuck 31.7 years because it's the only ..." and did a triple-take on how old the software is and how long you've been using it. But no, Wikipedia lists it as "Initial release: July 28, 2003; 14 years ago". Still very old to be in such widespread use, though. From where I worked to my grandma to my in-laws to the Linux poweruser that I am, a very widespread range of people use it. I am not 10…

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Thunderbird... Thunderbird 31.7.0 was released on 12th May 2015.

Read what I wrote carefully, I misread it as "I've been stuck 31.7 years" ;)

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

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Post by mstaoru »

I have 6 mailboxes I prefer to keep separate, and my email client history goes from Thunderbird to Postbox, then Thunderbird again, and then Spark.

Thunderbird was a good mail client, but the search is seriously broken. It's almost impossible to search Chinese at all, and when it searches Russian, some weird hits get mixed in, and some proper hits get ignored.

Postbox was very good overall, but every once in a while it would lose the whole cache, index, and sometimes even the whole downloaded history, and would spend a day chugging at downloading everything over again.

So for the last half a year I've been using Spark, and I'm pleasantly surprised by speed, search, and the feel of the app. Admittedly, there is no Windows version so it's not truly cross-platform.

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

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Post by lostapathy »

miles wrote: post #61
lostapathy wrote: post #16

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Honest question - why? There are kids enlisting in the army now that were born after XP was released.

> There are kids enlisting in the army now that were born after XP was released. Does the army accept 16-year-olds? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP "It was released to manufacturing on August 24, 2001, and broadly released for retail sale on October 25, 2001."

You have to be 17, so I guess we still have a couple months, my bad.

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

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Post by lostapathy »

lucb1e wrote: post #55
cesarb wrote: post #35

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What matters is not when Windows XP was originally released, but when its official support ended, which according to Wikipedia was on April 2014. Both Firefox and Thunderbird supported Windows XP for a few more years after that (since Windows XP was and is still popular even after its official support ended); version 52 of both (which is an ESR release) is going to be the last one with support for Windows XP. The ope…

> What matters is not when Windows XP was originally released, but when its official support ended Well, or when a serious replacement arose (because XP was aging at that point). Vista was quite alright if you had a beefy computer, but for the majority I guess it took until 7, which would be July 2009. Not saying you're wrong or that support should be dropped, I'm just not sure end of support is the best date to use.

I think end of support is a pretty good metric. If Microsoft won’t keep the underlying platform safe, one could argue it’s ethically problematic but to continue to encourage people to use it.

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

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Post by mapgrep »

michaelmrose wrote: post #40

Mu4e + emacs is pretty neat and quite zippy

Tried that — it kept choking on the 80k or so emails in my inbox. Apparently mu4e users just have tidy folder organization schemes from what I was told on mail list. I got spoiled by gmail and never sort my mail. In fact my dependence on search is why I turned to mu4e in the first place. I just assumed a unixy toolkit would scale just fine (bad assumption!).

Re: Thunderbird 52.7.0 released

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Post by everybodyknows »

qudat wrote: post #64
Mahn wrote: post #31

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I keep using Thunderbird because I haven't found anything better, but it's unbearably slow. I'd gladly jump ship to a better cross platform, featureful, responsive email client, but apparently they don't make these anymore.

There’s no money in email clients.

The sad truth. Likewise Linux desktops.
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