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Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)

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Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)

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Post by lisper »

csomar wrote: post #74
lisper wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've travelled all over the world and lived in LA for 22 years. Dubai is the least walkable city I've ever seen by a wide margin. It would hold that title even if the weather did not already make it feel like hell on earth.

The weather makes it impossible to have the city walkable and enjoyable. If you want to see another city less walkable than Dubai, it is Qatar. There isn't even public transportation there (though a metro line is in the works).

I dunno, Vegas and Montreal have pretty crappy weather and they are 10 times more walkable than Dubai.

Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)

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Post by geezerjay »

ex3ndr wrote: post #32
w1ntermute wrote: post #22

10k is a drop in the bucket. We need blocks of high rises going up around all the Caltrain stops, and a corresponding increase in Caltrain capacity.

For what? To turn them into ghetto in 10 years? Examples are almost everywhere in the world.

The center of Paris is an extremely dense urban area packed with over7-story appartment buildings.

Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)

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Post by okr »

csomar wrote: post #75
okr wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just have been to HK at Admiralty/Center. And the stairs up and down to get anywhere over the streets is super annoying. Especially at night. But surprisingly not much traffic, and lots of buses and trams. But maybe that was due to new year.

That's because you have been conditioned to look for the streets. The midlevel is amazing and protect you from the heat/rain plus makes your walk less of a pain (no need to cross roads).

Ha. Yes. That is very true. I take back the 'super annoying'. But still i have to go up and down, its not connected, so its still annoying. Beat that.

Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)

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Post by briandear »

salimmadjd wrote: post #3

(Dec 13, 2017) - This is a great start. But I think we really need more like 100,000 new units built. Just to help reverse some of the astronomical housing prices. I have no idea how a teacher would be able to live in SV and plan to have a family and everything else. At this rate, the housing costs are unsustainable. We wont be able to have a functioning city with all the needed staffing like teachers, nurses, seller…

Given the San Andreas fault, I am not sure I want to be riding in a Santa Cruz mountain tunnel.

Why not instead just run high speed commuter rail to the Central Valley? A maglev or something?

Definitely far more immediately useful than that San Fran — Los Angeles boondoggle.

Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)

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Post by briandear »

TaylorGood wrote: post #2

The elephant in the room wasn’t addressed. There is an affordable living developer involved yet no mention of pricing strategy? That said, hard to imagine it being any different than the highest of comps.

Supply and demand. If you increase supply, prices overall will go down.

“Affordable” or other non-market schemes simply raise the prices for everyone else — including the non rich that don’t win the “affordable” lottery.

More market housing everywhere solves the affordability crisis.

Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)

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Post by DrScump »

jsolson wrote: post #24
baron816 wrote: post #11

Parking would be less of a deal if they built mixed developments, which are more desirable anyway. It’s quite nice being able to walk out of your house and drop right into a coffee shop, bar, or restaurant. Walking to work or school is amazing too. People here seem to be so afraid that their neighborhoods will begin to look more like Dubai or Hong Kong. But clearly what we’re doing now isn’t sustainable, nor is it ev…

If by mixed do you just mean residential over retail? Is the Bay Area actually opposed to that?

The "Two Worlds" development on El Camino in Mountain View, which is residential over ground-floor retail, is at least 30 years old.

Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)

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Post by DrScump »

salimmadjd wrote: post #3

(Dec 13, 2017) - This is a great start. But I think we really need more like 100,000 new units built. Just to help reverse some of the astronomical housing prices. I have no idea how a teacher would be able to live in SV and plan to have a family and everything else. At this rate, the housing costs are unsustainable. We wont be able to have a functioning city with all the needed staffing like teachers, nurses, seller…

Heck, they could just build rail over the old South Pacific Coast railroad right of way. I've hiked it from Felton to the coast; it's gorgeous.

Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)

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Post by zinckiwi »

okr wrote: post #65
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t see why people think HK is a bad model, sure Kowloon walled City was bad, but modern HK is quite nice. I also got the impression that Dubai wasn’t very walkable, but I’ve never been there.

Just have been to HK at Admiralty/Center. And the stairs up and down to get anywhere over the streets is super annoying. Especially at night. But surprisingly not much traffic, and lots of buses and trams. But maybe that was due to new year.

One of the things I miss most about HK, having grown up there, is just how far you can get in a (roughly) straight line without touching the ground. There were parts where you could go for 10-15 minutes at a stretch, and that was ~25 years ago. I can only imagine that's grown since.

Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)

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Post by DrScump »

RestlessMind wrote: post #10

I hope they also invest in roads and mass transit. A lot of residents in those 10K new homes will be working outside of North Bayshore. Heck, even if one is working at Google, it could be at any other myriad campuses across Sunnyvale / San Jose / Mt View. There would also be kids, who need to be transported to schools. Without roads and transit improvements, North Bayshore can easily turn into a nightmare.

  A lot of residents in those 10K new homes will be working outside of North Bayshore.
Yes. And they will all be jamming already-gridlocked Shoreline Blvd. and Amphitheatre Parkway, since US 101 separates them from the rest of civilization.
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