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You can obviously believe whatever you want, but if you think that the consequences of failing to properly file a change of address form and then forgetting about a $14 annual bill should be that dire, that's pretty extreme. What do you think the penalty for littering should be? The death penalty?
The article did say it was a $14 Million Dollar tax bill.
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Nothing. My only point was most roads are public. I was referring to public side walks on the right of way not private ones.
If people have to live space on their private land for sidewalks, then when the city does build the sidewalks they are building privately-owned sidewalks.
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Sorry I don't agree. The situation was one of the HOA's own making. The tax collector didn't make the mistake, the HOA did. That's how life works for most people. There are consequences for making mistakes. Also, with regard to there being "no warning". Why wouldn't there be an assumption by the HOA that they owed taxes even though they weren't receiving a bill?
You can obviously believe whatever you want, but if you think that the consequences of failing to properly file a change of address form and then forgetting about a $14 annual bill should be that dire, that's pretty extreme. What do you think the penalty for littering should be? The death penalty?
Wealthy people having to pay their way out of an awkward situation caused by their own irresponsibility? I don't know the means of these people but based on where they live, it amounts to the equivalent of a speeding ticket.
Keep in mind, they aren't the only victims of their irresponsibility now. They have had to create this narrative of a bottom feeding couple trying to cheat them out of their street. It's character assassination and it's another reason not to feel sorry for them.
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I don't think it's the norm because it doesn't sound like most of these things happened in this case. Also, I've participated as a bidder in one auction where I live in FL. There was no notice posted on the property. I don't know if the other things happened.
By the time it goes to auction it's already been foreclosed on.
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> The world shouldn't work that way for anyone, rich or poor. But it does. These types of "investors" exist in all markets, and they are about the real estate equvilant of shady debt collectors. They buy properties that have delinquent taxes and once the city sells you it there are "no backsies" - the homeowner/whomever needs to now deal with the "investors" that bought the property from under them. It's extremely co…
Why is your solution to the problem making sure that everyone gets screwed rather than no one gets screwed?
The current status quo is "you're screwed if you are not rich and/or politically connected, but it's not a big deal if you know people" - so absolutely nothing will change.
You must make "important" people feel the same pain as the little people or they will never care enough to take any amount of action.
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You can obviously believe whatever you want, but if you think that the consequences of failing to properly file a change of address form and then forgetting about a $14 annual bill should be that dire, that's pretty extreme. What do you think the penalty for littering should be? The death penalty?
The practical effect of the penalty is relative to a person's ability to handle it. Wealthy people having to pay their way out of an awkward situation caused by their own irresponsibility? I don't know the means of these people but based on where they live, it amounts to the equivalent of a speeding ticket. Keep in mind, they aren't the only victims of their irresponsibility now. They have had to create this narrativ…
And besides, your idea is non sensical. We should confiscate their property knowing that they have the resources to get it back in order to induce some higher lawyer fees and a pain-in-the-ass factor as some kind of penalty increase? That's bizarre! That's not how government should work at all! It ends up being a waste of time and resources for a lot of people and, as you mention, draws in innocent 3rd parties who end up taking some of the heat.
If we actually wanted a higher penalty for richer people than there should just be a bigger fine or late fee.
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The practical effect of the penalty is relative to a person's ability to handle it. Wealthy people having to pay their way out of an awkward situation caused by their own irresponsibility? I don't know the means of these people but based on where they live, it amounts to the equivalent of a speeding ticket. Keep in mind, they aren't the only victims of their irresponsibility now. They have had to create this narrativ…
We don't asses penalties in this country based on the resources of the perpetrator. All are equal before the law (at least that is the aspiration. we obviously fall short in many instances.). And besides, your idea is non sensical. We should confiscate their property knowing that they have the resources to get it back in order to induce some higher lawyer fees and a pain-in-the-ass factor as some kind of penalty incr…
YOU are the one defending special treatment. Isn't that what has happened here?! They've successfully lobbied the city to treat them differently than everyone else?
All I was saying is it's harder to feel sorry for them. If you really cared about this issue, I'm sure you could find REAL tragedies that aren't being heard by the city council every single time the city does these tax sales. Like actual families being evicted for "clerical mistakes".
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When I own a private house, I'm responsible for maintaining it. The government's not going to fix my roof when it leaks. My tax bill, however, is still a bit higher then $14/year, for acres of land in the middle of a land-strapped metro area.
I'm sure the situation is the same for these people.
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When I own a private house, I'm responsible for maintaining it. The government's not going to fix my roof when it leaks. My tax bill, however, is still a bit higher then $14/year, for acres of land in the middle of a land-strapped metro area.
I'm sure the situation is the same for these people.
This is a colossal subsidy.
The wealthy once again got a free ride from the system while working to put others in debt. This is what's broken in our system. The wealthy have the money and should have purchased the land back. Instead they used money to buy political favor. The rich probably paid more in legal expenses than just buying the land back. This is spite and exertion of power, money, and influence, plain and simple. If the rules don't apply equally to everyone, then why do they apply to anyone?