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Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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post #22

This title "Acne vulgaris is virtually nonexistent in non-Western populations" is not supported by the article. HN policy is not to change the title which is "Acne Vulgaris - A Disease of Western Civilization"

The paper also only observes two groups: "the Kitavan Islanders of Papua New Guinea and the Aché hunter-gatherers of Paraguay."

That's not anywhere close to all non-Western populations!

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

#83
post #48

I'm always amused/horrified by Hacker News comments on anything health-related. Herein lie a group of incredibly smart individuals sharing anecdotal evidence and folk remedies without a lick of irony.

I find the opposite to be true. I think it's terrible that really smart people will often times blindly trust a certain sect of society on health issues, even when there's evidence that says they shouldn't.

And then publicly shame others for finding ways to heal themselves.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

#84

1. When I was a kid, just getting a tan cleared up my acne. 2. Changing my diet helped clean up my acne (not eating junk food) 3. When I was a teenager, I got hurt really bad, and my father found me and had to take me to the hospital. I saw massive acne breakout on his face in less than 15 minutes. 4. When I got older and was less stressed about life, my acne went away. When I got a family/career/house and life stres…

When I was a teenager, I saw a dermatologist for my Psoriasis. I somehow wound up with a prescription for tetracycline for my acne. Not only did it not work, but I was constantly sick for a full year after I stopped the medication.

There is no moral to this story.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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post #48

I'm always amused/horrified by Hacker News comments on anything health-related. Herein lie a group of incredibly smart individuals sharing anecdotal evidence and folk remedies without a lick of irony.

Imagine that you could aggregate all the anecdotes shared on the internet. It would be fascinating to compare the statistical conclusions you could draw against accepted science.

https://nequalsmany.com/

Check it out, this is happening. They are doing many crowdsourced analysis, the most prominent being a 30-day carnivore diet protocol: eat meat, drink water.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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post #3

Totally anecdotal, but I started taking vitamin D supplements at the suggestion of my doctor because of my family history of colon cancer. I noticed that my acne declined significantly. I'm wondering if it has to do with the amount of time one spends outside in the sun.

Here's the discussion and the paper on vitamin D: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15867918 . TL;DR: make sure to always get at least 8000 IU of vitamin D per day (10 times the RDA) if you want to be healthy and have good bones, skin, mood, sleep, immunity and metabolism. I have also heard a rumor that recent studies suggest solid vitamin D pills are better than oil capsules. Would be nice if somebody knowing wha…

I think you missed the link to the discussion in your comment.

Would taking 10x the RDA of Vitamin D daily have any side effects? (overdose?)

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

#88
post #48

I'm always amused/horrified by Hacker News comments on anything health-related. Herein lie a group of incredibly smart individuals sharing anecdotal evidence and folk remedies without a lick of irony.

I think this happens often around here on anything non-tech related. Surprise, being smart doesn't mean you know everything ;-)

It doesn’t of course, but it seems reasonable to hope that people (particularly “smart” people) would try and support arguments/suggestions with data.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read my reply below. The prescriptions are standard the pore unclogging/extractions and peels are the real differentiator. Oh yeah and the Diet restrictions.

This very little evidence that diet affects acne. I'm glad you found a solution, but food probably had little to do with it. Especially "greasy" food, which is one of the items they list on their website. They also say that antibiotic solutions are a "myth", which is patently false.

There are several kinds of acne. The kind that you get when you hit puberty is not related to diet. Adult acne in most cases is however.

The thing is food does not directly cause acne. The logic is pretty simple actually. Acne causing bacteria grow in blocked pores and greasy food and dairy makes me super oily . More sebum more blocked pores aaand more acne.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

#90
Here is a challenge for everyone who claims to have found a connection between reduced acne and $X, where $X is whatever: sugar, carbs, exercise, sun light, nose picking, masturbation, sex, chocolate, stress, soda, tv, dairy, razor blades, vitamin d, coffee, pasta...

Take a picture of your face in good light conditions as it looks today and send it to me. Then you spend one month doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of your wonder method. That is, if your claim is that dairy causes your face to break, you indulge in massive amounts of dairy products. If it's shaving, you start shaving every day. You keep this regimen for one month's time.

Then you send me a new picture of your face in equally good lighting. If in that picture, your acne has gotten significantly worse I will pay you $2000, no questions asked. I'm sorry that I'm poor so $2000 is all I can afford to wager, but perhaps we can make it into some kind of crowdfunding, where everyone chips in a little to produce some new research?

I'm totally serious about this "challenge."

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