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A swarm of submarine drones will scour the depths for MH370

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Re: A swarm of submarine drones will scour the depths for MH370

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Its crazy the amount of money spent on MH370... does anyone know how much it compares to the payout of the victim's families?

Also there's not really much "mystery of MH370." It was almost certainly suicide/murder by the pilot. Though I guess there's no harm confirming that.

It was almost certainly boarded and hijacked in mid flight by commandos who flew the plane to khazakstan where it was used to fake the shoot down of MH17.

Re: A swarm of submarine drones will scour the depths for MH370

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Its crazy the amount of money spent on MH370... does anyone know how much it compares to the payout of the victim's families?

Does life insurance pay for incidents like this where there is no body / proof of death? Just read that NYT piece about the Everest climbers from India who died, and who's families could not collect because there was no body.

Re: A swarm of submarine drones will scour the depths for MH370

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> When you purchase a HUGIN AUV you join the our family. That's an interesting point of view. I guess it's common with really expensive things?

It continues: > This means access to support 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. The HUGIN family also provides upgrades, advice, training and participation in our AUV user conference where ideas and experience are shared. So they do mean something concrete by it, even if the language is flowery and over-affectionate.

Yeah I should have quoted that to begin with. It's interesting that all the training is really part of the product too.

Re: A swarm of submarine drones will scour the depths for MH370

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I wasn't following the investigation too closely, but the conspiracy theories I saw weren't too convincing: Mostly, they highlighted instances of authorities either correcting previous mistakes, or withholding information slightly longer than necessary. Yet it's quite obvious how these two errors are related: If you're eagerly accused of the former, you'll tend to indulge in the latter. It's also important to conside…

Oh, right, by conspiracy theories I meant something involving foul play closer to it being ditched in the ocean, not those theories that claim it was diverted to somewhere in Asia. By contradictions I meant the stuff like this [1]. Malaysia got slammed internationally by governments all over the world for their misleading and contradictory statements. It was hard for everyone to explain the particulars away as the be…

> How in the world they could jump to conclusions before the people actually doing the investigations certainly beats me. I could see it as being a miscommunication, but this was not a one-off incident.

It is probably just human nature. Many people will continue to think and do what they did before, even after having the error of their ways explained to them. While you might expect a person in a position of responsibility to act more responsibly, it also seems possible that such a person might consider himself to be more competent than average, which would exacerbate the Dunning-Kruger effect - in this case, thinking his hunch about the debris is as good as a conclusion by crash investigators.

A false report of more debris being found might be a misunderstanding of the original find being reported through different channels at different times. An impulsive person, eager to say something, might not consider that possibility before making an announcement.

Re: A swarm of submarine drones will scour the depths for MH370

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It would be super cool if these submarines could be made completely autonomous. They could come up to the surface to recharge their solar batteries or maybe charge them using turbines rotated by the water movements. They could remotely relay images and data to a publicly accessible services where they could be crowdsourced for interesting findings. I think something like this could be useful for more than just the se…

I've actually been thinking about this, and, on a small scale, it should be possibly with almost no budget (i. e. retrofitting an RC model with solar power, an arduino, GPS/WIFI/Cellular). Some thoughts: - Submarines aren't great because solar is your best source for power, and you don't want to divide each day to "work" and "rest" because you need to recharge on the surface. - Electric propulsion will also require s…

My company offers this exact thing as a commercial service: (Solar-powered Sailing-aaS?) http://www.saildrone.com

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually been thinking about this, and, on a small scale, it should be possibly with almost no budget (i. e. retrofitting an RC model with solar power, an arduino, GPS/WIFI/Cellular). Some thoughts: - Submarines aren't great because solar is your best source for power, and you don't want to divide each day to "work" and "rest" because you need to recharge on the surface. - Electric propulsion will also require s…

My company offers this exact thing as a commercial service: (Solar-powered Sailing-aaS?) http://www.saildrone.com

Very cool! If I were US-based, I'd apply for a job :)

Re: A swarm of submarine drones will scour the depths for MH370

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Somebody alive knows where it really is.

That is likely false. If it for any reason nose dived into the ocean at high speed then there may be no witnesses and most of the material would have either vaporized or been shredded into fine particles.
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