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Legal Marijuana Isn’t the Boon Small Businesses Thought It Would Be

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Re: Legal Marijuana Isn’t the Boon Small Businesses Thought It Would Be

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This is the consequence of the United States' governments and citizenry refusing to move on reform in a reasonable timeframe.

While citizens are fighting against the insane hordes for legalization on a state by state level, corporations are starting operations in states where it is already legal, because they have the capital to do so.

By the time weed is legal in all 50 states, the marketplace will be completely locked down by giant corporations.

What I'm saying is you people are fools. You lack foresight and you dig your own graves and now you're whining about it. Maybe if everyone would start using their critical thinking skills a bit more instead of crying about how I'm being hostile or rude or whatever you'd see I'm right and what you all needed is a kick in your collective asses.

I want whats best for everyone, but the people don't listen to me, and they treat me like the problem when the real problem is themselves. shrug

For those of you who aren't taking irrational personal offense at my words, heed this: All legalization MUST include provisions that allow citizens to grow their own pot. This is the only victory we'll have against the corporations. They're going to steal the marketplace, so be it, but if we can grow our own then it won't matter.

Re: Legal Marijuana Isn’t the Boon Small Businesses Thought It Would Be

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Some heavy users care about certain strains and the like, but I have a feeling that for most people weed is weed. As recently as 5-6 years ago, I would have agreed with this sentiment. These days, however I think this mentality is no longer a responsible one to propagate. Today's cannabis is, in general, much more potent than it used to be. And now there are ways to consume very large amounts of this extremely pote…

> Today people need to be reasonably sure that what they're getting will meet their needs, because for some one hit may send them spiraling in the totally wrong direction. A user with anxiety issues may need to entirely steer clear of sativas because they are known to cause anxiety attacks. But someone who needs to be around other people may need to avoid indicas because they are known to cause delayed responses and…

I'm not particularly knowledgeable about this, but I'm guessing that there won't be any really reliable / scientific sources for any of this.

It's been illegal for so long (and at the U.S. Federal level, still is) that I can't imagine there's been much research on this.

Re: Legal Marijuana Isn’t the Boon Small Businesses Thought It Would Be

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Two things of interest that the article doesn’t go into: - Taxes on weed in CA are going to be very high, ~20%. This may drive black market sales. - Online ordering through Eaze is popular, which might drive the familiar winner take all online commerce market dynamic. A lot of people don’t care for the dispensary experience. At the end of the day, this is an agricultural product, and a commodity. It was optimisticall…

Cigarettes cost about $0.10 a pack to manufacture so maybe $0.50 price for highly marketed brands. Price these days, with the added tax and sudo-tax lawsuit settlement, $5-$10 a pack. About 10x so 1000% tax or so. 20% seems mild especially considering normal sales tax in CA is around 10%. I don't see a fundamental reason the cost of weed won't be around the price of tobacco in a fully legalized and big-ag growing env…

I think the reason for high tobacco taxes is because of the harm smoking tobacco causes. At least in the UK, where the taxpayer foots the nation's medical bills, the escalating taxes seem designed to slowly but surely make smoking a thing of the past. It seems to be working.

Re: Legal Marijuana Isn’t the Boon Small Businesses Thought It Would Be

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Holy guacamole those weed prices are off the scales! $7.50 a gram? Weed should cost about the same amount as catnip. I can buy 4 oz of catnip for $8 on eBay. That's over 100g, about 8 cents a gram.

Black market prices in the UK are around $14/g for weed, so these prices seem great from the other side of the pond!

What's with the catnip comparison?

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