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Lee Atwater, former chairman of the Republican National Party ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater ) literally said that the key to republicans winning in the south was couching racism in more palatable euphemisms. https://www.thenation.com/article/exclusive-lee-atwaters-inf... North Carolina's GOP was sanctioned by the Supreme Court for actively attempting to disenfranchise black people: https://www.theatlant…

> Lee Atwater, former chairman of the Republican National Party ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater ) literally said that the key to republicans winning in the south was couching racism in more palatable euphemisms. What he literally said was this: > You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, st…

It's a strategy for destroying racism by abstracting it into non-existence.

Do you really believe that? Not many do - most think it is a deliberately racist strategy, and most see that quote as an explanation of it.

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> Lee Atwater, former chairman of the Republican National Party ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater ) literally said that the key to republicans winning in the south was couching racism in more palatable euphemisms. What he literally said was this: > You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, st…

It's a strategy for destroying racism by abstracting it into non-existence. Do you really believe that? Not many do - most think it is a deliberately racist strategy, and most see that quote as an explanation of it.

> Do you really believe that? Not many do - most think it is a deliberately racist strategy, and most see that quote as an explanation of it.

How is it racist to remove the racist component from a policy?

It's literally the exact opposite of that. That's what optimizing to reduce the amount of racism looks like -- you find things that are partly desired and partly racist and replace them with something to achieve the desired objective without discriminating based on race.

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post #81

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It's a strategy for destroying racism by abstracting it into non-existence. Do you really believe that? Not many do - most think it is a deliberately racist strategy, and most see that quote as an explanation of it.

> Do you really believe that? Not many do - most think it is a deliberately racist strategy, and most see that quote as an explanation of it. How is it racist to remove the racist component from a policy? It's literally the exact opposite of that. That's what optimizing to reduce the amount of racism looks like -- you find things that are partly desired and partly racist and replace them with something to achieve the…

Wow. I genuinely never realised people could think this.

You understand that they didn’t remove the racist component at all, right? He literally explained how to implement racist policies without making it explicit.

Like you said: replace them with something to achieve the desired objective without discriminating based on race.

But note that the desired objective is to discriminate on race, and it is only an attempt to hide the appearance.

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> Do you really believe that? Not many do - most think it is a deliberately racist strategy, and most see that quote as an explanation of it. How is it racist to remove the racist component from a policy? It's literally the exact opposite of that. That's what optimizing to reduce the amount of racism looks like -- you find things that are partly desired and partly racist and replace them with something to achieve the…

Wow. I genuinely never realised people could think this. You understand that they didn’t remove the racist component at all, right? He literally explained how to implement racist policies without making it explicit. Like you said: replace them with something to achieve the desired objective without discriminating based on race. But note that the desired objective is to discriminate on race , and it is only an attempt…

> But note that the desired objective is to discriminate on race, and it is only an attempt to hide the appearance.

No it isn't, that's the whole point. Most people have no real interest in discriminating based on race. They just want their tax dollars to go to their own interests instead of to somebody else. They don't care if the somebody else is black, white or polka dot. They want to pay $5000 in taxes and get back >=$5000 in government services, not pay $6000 and get back $3000.

Listen to more of the interview. It isn't that most people want to discriminate based on race and economic policies are a way to do it, it's that people want particular economic policies and direct racial discrimination was historically a way to do that. The point isn't to use economics as a proxy for race, it's to stop using race as a proxy for economics.

The two things have some similar effects, because "affects poor people" and "affects black people" are similar when poor and black correlate, but they're not actually the same and the exact difference is what makes it racism or not.

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post #83

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Wow. I genuinely never realised people could think this. You understand that they didn’t remove the racist component at all, right? He literally explained how to implement racist policies without making it explicit. Like you said: replace them with something to achieve the desired objective without discriminating based on race. But note that the desired objective is to discriminate on race , and it is only an attempt…

> But note that the desired objective is to discriminate on race , and it is only an attempt to hide the appearance. No it isn't, that's the whole point. Most people have no real interest in discriminating based on race. They just want their tax dollars to go to their own interests instead of to somebody else. They don't care if the somebody else is black, white or polka dot. They want to pay $5000 in taxes and get b…

It isn't that most people want to discriminate based on race and economic policies are a way to do it, it's that people want particular economic policies and direct racial discrimination was historically a way to do that.

Late 60s South, the voters who used to vote for racist Democrats switched to racist Republicans even though the economic policies were complete opposites.

I think that says a lot.

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Not to mention some pretty solid data about where the anti Black racists reside. It's hard to imagine a Klan member being a Democrat, within the past few decades. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/04/1...

The 2016 Klan leader endorsed Clinton for President. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-14/ku-klux-klan...

https://www.snopes.com/kkk-endorses-hillary-clinton/
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