Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth • Hacker News Board

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by fjsolwmv » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:49 AM UTC

throwawaycloud wrote: post #65

mberning wrote: post #33

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Maybe they have a budget for that kind of stuff. Maybe they don't. Based on personal experience growing up in actual poverty I would bet most do not. I certainly didn't. And neither did most of the people in my life. It's really no different than buying smokes by the pack or 20oz sodas at the gas station. Many people can easily come up with the money to buy these things, even people that are perpetually "broke". But…

Ever make chicken? 3lbs of chicken is $15 alone ($3.59/lb x 4 lbs, about 1lb of liquid). That's not a lot of food. Oh, hmm.. How about hamburger then? Same story. $1k would absolutely be a lifechanger. I'd be able to go get my colonoscopy that I desperately need, or be able to at least go to a therapist to help get over my fear of needles in preparation for that. You bet I'll drop $15 on CAH. I'm not going to deny my…

$1000 for a colonoscopy to tell you that you need $500K of treatment?

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by moonka » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:50 AM UTC

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #37

moonka wrote: post #17

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Looks like it. https://cardsagainsthumanitystopsthewall.com/

I doubt a law firm would put their letterhead on a fake letter, but looking at the public map, most of the subdivision I got a letter for is already owned by the USA: http://www.cameroncad.org/cadclientdb/propertymap.aspx Tarpon Haven Subdivision Edit: There's also two huge tracts of land above that subdivision that are also owned by the US. I'm not sure they even need to go through that subdivision if they wanted to…

Where did you find which property they bought? I probably missed it. I also imagine that if they built north of the property, walling off a part of property from the rest of the country in that fashion would fall into some legal issues.

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by emmelaich » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:51 AM UTC

Strilanc wrote: post #5

eutectic wrote: post #2

Why only consider within-country inequality (and, yes, I realize that the answer is 'because it's partly a publicity stunt, and humans are biased and parochial')? The average American is incomparable wealthy compared to the average African, and you can on average save a life for only a few $thousand to one of Givewell's top recommended charities.

The Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics [1] strikes again. 1: https://blog.jaibot.com/the-copenhagen-interpretation-of-eth...

Excellent read, thanks. Worth reading through the comments on that article too.

Previous discussion on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10367855

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by JakeTheAndroid » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:51 AM UTC

mberning wrote: post #64

djsumdog wrote: post #48

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When everything is going to shit, people are in the hospital and you barely have enough food stamps to feed your kids ... You can go to a movie. Are you going to really fault someone for that, or taking their partner to a restaurant, using what little they have, to just try and forget how bad things are for a few hours?! It's not like they can just stop being poor.

I don't begrudge anybody their small pleasures in life. I also think they can do what they want with their money. But, when the topic of wealth redistribution comes up I do start to have a lot more questions about what people want to do with the money. After all, it's not their money. They didn't earn it. Somebody else did. I think it's pretty fair to at least have the conversation. I absolutely hate the "helpless po…

And you're suggesting that purchasing a funny card game that has value over time should be a disqualifying factor?

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by jquery » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:52 AM UTC

fjsolwmv wrote: post #79

jquery wrote: post #57

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People stopped starving to death when capitalism created enough wealth that we joke about First World Problems. Socialism doesn’t stop people from starving, look at Venezuela. Look at China’s history.

Look at Native Americans history and Hawaiians history and Bhopal's history.

Is this the "it's not my job to educate you" reply? What Native American tribe are you talking about? Are you saying the tribes that didn't have private property were rich?

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by jquery » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:53 AM UTC

petercampanelli wrote: post #63

jquery wrote: post #44

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If $1000 is life changing money for you, you have no business spending $15 on a lottery ticket, unless you are terrible at managing money, which might have something more to do with their situation more than living in the richest nation on Earth.

You're casting so much judgement here. Anyone can spend money on whatever they choose, just like the recipients can spend the $1000 however they like. We have no business criticizing these people.

If Cards Against Humanity is going to demand wealth redistribution to support these people, you're goddamn right I can judge the financial choices of their champions.

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by strangecasts » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:54 AM UTC

Helloworldboy wrote: post #22

TehCorwiz wrote: post #20

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It's less about the game itself and more about the people you're with when you sit down to play it. You get to know what they're squeamish about, what their prejudices are, what they're passionate about, even their fears. They say that many a truth was spoken in jest and giving someone license to say aloud dirty, disgusting, or even downright reprehensible thoughts will get to the core of someone's worldview faster t…

I've played it several times before with a pretty wide range of people. Without fail it just devolves into who can put together the edgiest answer. Then after 2 or 3 rounds everyone just comes to expect it and gets bored.

The Jackbox game series' equivalent to CAH solves this nicely by having you type in your own answers, instead of picking from a pool of premade ones - you can still be "edgy", but you have to make it work in context instead of going for cheap shock.

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by dragonwriter » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:54 AM UTC

bobcostas55 wrote: post #54

Literally every single poor person pictured is obese. That baby is almost certainly going to be overweight in a few years. I'm amazed this isn't a bigger issue politically. Nutrition is a huge driver of health inequality. In 50 years the obesity rate has quadrupled. A return to the eating habits of the 1960s is perhaps the greatest possible welfare achievement right now (in the US), with impact far larger than univer…

> A return to the eating habits of the 1960s is perhaps the greatest possible welfare achievement right now (in the US), with impact far larger than universal healthcare.

You are comparing a concrete policy with a policy outcome for which there is no even remote concept of a policy mechanism that would achieve it.

> And it doesn't need to cost anything.

Massive changes to behavior are not free; the changes in eating habits that happened since the 1969s were driven by a number of economic and other factors, and counteracting all those factors to drive people back to 1960s eating habits would not be cheap.

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by hactually » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:56 AM UTC

Strilanc wrote: post #5

eutectic wrote: post #2

Why only consider within-country inequality (and, yes, I realize that the answer is 'because it's partly a publicity stunt, and humans are biased and parochial')? The average American is incomparable wealthy compared to the average African, and you can on average save a life for only a few $thousand to one of Givewell's top recommended charities.

The Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics [1] strikes again. 1: https://blog.jaibot.com/the-copenhagen-interpretation-of-eth...

That was a fantastic read, thank you for sharing.

It's incredible how humans do this.

Doing something for some people and is better than the status quo but instead we lambast them for not doing even more.

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by danielh96 » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:57 AM UTC

throwawaycloud wrote: post #46

ridgewell wrote: post #12

>We excluded all Canadians. They already have universal healthcare. They’ll be fine. Yikes. I certainly got a laugh out of that, then an overly reflective period of what I'm grateful for, especially the benefits afforded from being north of the border.

Throwaway for privacy. I've been concealing cancer symptoms for years, mostly because I can't afford to get a colonoscopy. Even the cheapest clinics run well over $1k, which is totally out of reach. The secondary reason is an unhealthy fear of needles and a desire to live without a colostomy bag. I know I need to see a psychiatrist or a therapist to help me get over these irrational fears, but you guessed it: I can't…

Man, that's awful to hear, I'm sorry you're in that position.

If you haven't gone to see any doctor at all (and presuming one visit won't bankrupt you), you really should. They don't have to perform any procedure or examination you don't want them to and they're very understanding of people's phobias.

If you have gone and you know for sure you need a colonoscopy then yeah, I'm not sure what to say. It's an awful situation to be in choosing between debt and healthcare. I hope things work out for you and you can get some help.