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Re: Google Blocks YouTube Access from Amazon's Streaming Devices

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Post by kuschku » Wed, Dec 06, 2017, 8:48 AM UTC

xbmcuser wrote: post #80

kuschku wrote: post #76

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Amazon isn’t selling the Chromecast (they’re selling all other Google hardware) because Google prevented Amazon from streaming to the Chromecast. Which is Google abusing its monopoly.

Ah no Amazon stopped selling google nest devices as well. And no google has not stopped Amazon from streaming to chrome-cast it is Amazon that is not implementing it apps for streaming to chromecast. If you can stream with vlc to chromecast I dont see how google is stopping Amazon

> If you can stream with vlc to chromecast

You can only if the device has Google Play Services installed.

Amazon doesn’t want to have separate versions of their apps for regular Android (as used on LineageOS, Amazon Kindle Android, MIUI, Replicant, CopperheadOS) and for Google’s version with proprietary Play Services.

Re: Google Blocks YouTube Access from Amazon's Streaming Devices

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Post by Mister_Snuggles » Wed, Dec 06, 2017, 3:48 PM UTC

wang_li wrote: post #42

Mister_Snuggles wrote: post #19

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Interestingly enough, my Blu-Ray player lost Youtube access at some point because the vendor stopped pushing updates and Google changed the API. I don't blame Google, nor do I blame the hardware vendor - I don't expect my devices to receive software updates forever, and I don't expect Google to keep the same API forever either.

And yet, somehow, you could buy a TV appropriate to your country from any television manufacturer and you could receive programming from a range of different television broadcasters for seventy years.

But I also can't receive modern transmissions on that TV set, nor can I hook it up to a modern device (e.g., a Blu-Ray player that only has HDMI or RCA outputs)

Re: Google Blocks YouTube Access from Amazon's Streaming Devices

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Post by cgore » Wed, Dec 06, 2017, 6:56 PM UTC

tw04 wrote: post #75

cgore wrote: post #11

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I've got one of those, it's a piece of crap. I mostly use my Apple TV.

In what way is it a piece of crap? I've got two and they've been flawless.

Mostly software issues, locking up and rebooting, stuff like that.

Re: Google Blocks YouTube Access from Amazon's Streaming Devices

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Post by em3rgent0rdr » Thu, Dec 07, 2017, 7:50 AM UTC

onboardram wrote: post #71

niftich wrote: post #48

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Google can block YouTube wherever it wishes because their YouTube clients are either: - first-party, so they make them on platforms where they wish to be present on, and conversely withdraw from platforms on which they no longer wish to be present; or, - third-party, such they are bound by the YouTube API Services Terms of Service [1], which reserves their right to terminate any client for specifically enumerated rea…

There are clients like Newpipe[1] that directly parse the Youtube website instead of using the API. [1]: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/

I'm a big user of NewPipe. They have features for free that the YouTube app would make you pay for, such as listening to audio only in the background, removing ads. Plus many other useful features such as having a scaled down video display in front of other apps and downloading video/audio to listen later offline.