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Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

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Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

#81

The founder guy sounds kinda naive and strange. The only way to provide the most value to users is scale.

Think of it this way: he has his ‘f* you’ money and Kickstarter was his idea to begin with and they still rake in millions and he’s happy to experiment at the artsy-end of the market.

That may or may not make impeccable business sense but he’s structured the business so he can follow that ‘mission’.

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

#82

I would like to hijacked this post to also mention Liberapay ( https://liberapay.com ) which is a fork of GitTip and ran by one of the original devs. I like it because it is a small, independent competitor to Patreon. It seems more suited to things that are not "art" or "internet celebrity", e.g. open source projects or political initiatives. It is like GitTip before the name change to Gratipay in that you don't need…

If I might hijack this comment, I'd like to mention Snowdrift.coop as well, which is targeted at free/libre/open works. ("Disclaimer": I am a member of our fully volunteer team.) Snowdrift.coop functions in a similar no-strings-attached style to Liberapay, but uses a unique donation model, called Crowdmatching, where the amount of the monthly donation is based on the number of patrons. The platform itself will be fun…

Your wiki link is giving me this error, FYI:

Happstack 7.4.6.1

Something went wrong here Internal server error Everything has stopped

The error was "NotFound"

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

#83
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Facebook only turned into such a hostile entity because it got big enough to exert real political influence. This evaluation is very shallow. Facebook has been a manipulative and unethical corporation for years, maybe forever. It's true that lots of companies start out fine and then start abusing their power once they get big. But Facebook is that and is unethical in other ways also . By design, Facebook is about c…

Patreon has been pushing features to publish content on their platform. They already have correlated user data not only between what people like, but what they are willing to pay for, and have mounds of comments and pledge data about all that behavior. Patreon isn't about collecting personal info, but people are giving them personal info by the boatload and Patreon remains a private corporation at the end of the day.…

Patreon will never be as large as Facebook. Your concerns about Patreon acting against the public good are VALID as are your concerns about them becoming a monopoly (although they are not that right now).

Get this straight: I'm not AT ALL defending Patreon. But to compare them to Facebook is to fail to realize how deeply horrible Facebook is. I'm not saying Patreon is better than you say they are. I'm saying Facebook is far WORSE than you suggest.

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

#84
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I might hijack this comment, I'd like to mention Snowdrift.coop as well, which is targeted at free/libre/open works. ("Disclaimer": I am a member of our fully volunteer team.) Snowdrift.coop functions in a similar no-strings-attached style to Liberapay, but uses a unique donation model, called Crowdmatching, where the amount of the monthly donation is based on the number of patrons. The platform itself will be fun…

Your wiki link is giving me this error, FYI: Happstack 7.4.6.1 Something went wrong here Internal server error Everything has stopped The error was "NotFound"

The link given above was wrong. There's no final slash. It's just: https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/about/intro

Anyway, it would be better to get a not so bad not-found page. Also, better intro stuff for Snowdrift.coop is planned to be published soon.

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

#85
post #60

I would like to hijacked this post to also mention Liberapay ( https://liberapay.com ) which is a fork of GitTip and ran by one of the original devs. I like it because it is a small, independent competitor to Patreon. It seems more suited to things that are not "art" or "internet celebrity", e.g. open source projects or political initiatives. It is like GitTip before the name change to Gratipay in that you don't need…

I am looking for a Patreon-like service where patrons could pledge money to individual pieces of content. Imagine that I create and maintain a public transport map for each city in the world and I want to let locals to pledge to their local city map. Something like that. Ideally with a donation counter that I could embed into each individual map. Of course, there are thousands of cities so I will need an automated wa…

No such service exists. You might find certain types of tipping platforms or tools to be the closest.

Here's a summary of the whole market: https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/market-research/other-crowdfundi...

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

#86

The founder guy sounds kinda naive and strange. The only way to provide the most value to users is scale.

Think of it this way: he has his ‘f * you’ money and Kickstarter was his idea to begin with and they still rake in millions and he’s happy to experiment at the artsy-end of the market. That may or may not make impeccable business sense but he’s structured the business so he can follow that ‘mission’.

I was just taking him at his word, I think at some point in the article he was quoted about providing value to users or something. But yes I agree with you in general, he wants to mess around and experiment and let his ego rule his little kingdom.

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

#87

I would like to hijacked this post to also mention Liberapay ( https://liberapay.com ) which is a fork of GitTip and ran by one of the original devs. I like it because it is a small, independent competitor to Patreon. It seems more suited to things that are not "art" or "internet celebrity", e.g. open source projects or political initiatives. It is like GitTip before the name change to Gratipay in that you don't need…

If I might hijack this comment, I'd like to mention Snowdrift.coop as well, which is targeted at free/libre/open works. ("Disclaimer": I am a member of our fully volunteer team.) Snowdrift.coop functions in a similar no-strings-attached style to Liberapay, but uses a unique donation model, called Crowdmatching, where the amount of the monthly donation is based on the number of patrons. The platform itself will be fun…

Working link: https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/about/intro

I typed it from memory and forgot it should not have a trailing /, unfortunately it's too late to edit the post.

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