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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by KozmoNau7 »

plopz wrote: post #24
barrkel wrote: post #7

Hopefully most of the missing extensions will be developed sooner rather than later. I have 15 extensions installed, 14 of which are "Legacy". The most critical one, Tree Style Tabs, has been converted. That was the key blocker that prevented me from seriously using Chrome. But many more remain; Cookie Controller, RefControl, some kind of Classic Theme Restorer equivalent (to get a menu bar back for Bookmarks, at a m…

Unfortunately, I don't think theres ever going to be a Classic Theme Restorer equivalent that works going forward. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1328244

A lot of that stuff is built into the browser, for people who care to look through the customization options and possibly do a tiny bit of about:config tweaking.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by KozmoNau7 »

Mizza wrote: post #65

I just upgraded. It completely changes the chrome of the browser on OSX and it is _absolutely hideous_. There are a lots of unnecessary animations that I find very jarring. I don't know if there's a way to change it back yet. UPDATE: There is a "Customize Firefox" button which allows modifying the theme, which fixes the colors, but not the shape of the tabs or the animations. UPDATE: In about:config, you can disable…

Do you have any specific examples?

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by sp332 »

IChrisI wrote: post #39
barrkel wrote: post #7

Hopefully most of the missing extensions will be developed sooner rather than later. I have 15 extensions installed, 14 of which are "Legacy". The most critical one, Tree Style Tabs, has been converted. That was the key blocker that prevented me from seriously using Chrome. But many more remain; Cookie Controller, RefControl, some kind of Classic Theme Restorer equivalent (to get a menu bar back for Bookmarks, at a m…

Tree Style Tabs was the only blocker for me, and I was amazed that it was possible to recreate under the new API. I use both Firefox and Chrome, but for very different purposes. In Chrome, I have 20-50 tabs spread across two windows. In Firefox, 400+. Tree Style Tabs is necessary for how I use Firefox. My backup plan was staying on an older version, possibly indefinitely.

The APIs are still being expanded. Tree-style tabs was near the top of the list of things they wanted to get support for before the deadline. They also had a bunch of bugs open for various features where devs could discuss use cases for potential APIs, and even "office hours" to work directly with extension devs to help them port their add-ons.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by chippy »

barrkel wrote: post #7

Hopefully most of the missing extensions will be developed sooner rather than later. I have 15 extensions installed, 14 of which are "Legacy". The most critical one, Tree Style Tabs, has been converted. That was the key blocker that prevented me from seriously using Chrome. But many more remain; Cookie Controller, RefControl, some kind of Classic Theme Restorer equivalent (to get a menu bar back for Bookmarks, at a m…

This new release is all about attracting new users to FF from Chrome. It will hurt those of us who actively have been using and living with Firefox.

In time, they say, they will bring back the various APIs for the extensions (although it's still "might" and there's no timeline yet) - so in the meantime, if you liked FF for it's customisation, we just have to suck it up. It's similar to when Ubuntu moved to Unity and attracted all the new users but pissed off all the existing userbase. We should expect a big backlash when all the linux repos get updated and the power users release they have a degraded experience.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by KozmoNau7 »

amelius wrote: post #74

It's supposed to be faster, but when I open developer-tools and click on "Inspector", it takes almost 5 seconds to paint. EDIT: Okay, tested again; it depends heavily on the website you do this on.

Less than a second here. Yes, I can see it paint, but it's nowhere near 5 seconds. And I'm on a base model Thinkpad T440, hardly a speed machine these days.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by sp332 »

itaris wrote: post #19
barrkel wrote: post #7

Hopefully most of the missing extensions will be developed sooner rather than later. I have 15 extensions installed, 14 of which are "Legacy". The most critical one, Tree Style Tabs, has been converted. That was the key blocker that prevented me from seriously using Chrome. But many more remain; Cookie Controller, RefControl, some kind of Classic Theme Restorer equivalent (to get a menu bar back for Bookmarks, at a m…

It's worth noting that most legacy extensions still actually work. You just need to enable them.

That might be true for this release, but Firefox has committed to moving away from XUL. That means your extensions are guaranteed to break eventually.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by robin_reala »

andrepd wrote: post #51
barrkel wrote: post #7

Hopefully most of the missing extensions will be developed sooner rather than later. I have 15 extensions installed, 14 of which are "Legacy". The most critical one, Tree Style Tabs, has been converted. That was the key blocker that prevented me from seriously using Chrome. But many more remain; Cookie Controller, RefControl, some kind of Classic Theme Restorer equivalent (to get a menu bar back for Bookmarks, at a m…

The WebEx Tree Style Tabs is markedly inferior to the "Legacy" version. It is simply an integral and indispensable part of my workflow, so much that I can't even fathom browsing without it. I guess I'll stay on 56 for a while.

If you’re going to stay on a version then you’re probably better off on Firefox ESR as the current version will keep on getting security fixes until the middle of next year (by which time hopefully the features you’re missing will have come back).

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by amelius »

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #85
amelius wrote: post #74

It's supposed to be faster, but when I open developer-tools and click on "Inspector", it takes almost 5 seconds to paint. EDIT: Okay, tested again; it depends heavily on the website you do this on.

Less than a second here. Yes, I can see it paint, but it's nowhere near 5 seconds. And I'm on a base model Thinkpad T440, hardly a speed machine these days.

Did you wait until the box was fully populated?

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Mizza »

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #82
Mizza wrote: post #65

I just upgraded. It completely changes the chrome of the browser on OSX and it is _absolutely hideous_. There are a lots of unnecessary animations that I find very jarring. I don't know if there's a way to change it back yet. UPDATE: There is a "Customize Firefox" button which allows modifying the theme, which fixes the colors, but not the shape of the tabs or the animations. UPDATE: In about:config, you can disable…

Do you have any specific examples?

When you click on a new link, there is an "explosion" animation on the tab where it turns entirely blue for a second. This happens every time you click a link. I'm finding this extremely distracting. I'm sensitive to this kind of stuff so I always try to disable animations on everything I can.

The top bar is also black-ish now rather than the system grey. This looks particularly bad with the new "blue" highlight indicator. The tabs are all square rather than rounded. It all looks pretty hideous.

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