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Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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No. People actually use other currencies as a medium of exchange first, and store of value second (usually they purchase assets to store value long term). Bitcoin is the other way round (at present at least).

I save more than I spend, so wouldn't I be mainly using it as a store of value rather than a medium of exchange?

Are you investing your savings? No. Are you just holding it in a bank with little or no interest, then yes.

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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There's no pyramid scheme. It's a hyped asset, to say the least, but there's no pyramid. Like a hyped startup, it doesn't do much yet, but it is promising, so people buy it. It may be "worth" much or zero in the end, it all depends on the final outcomes. It's also the easiest/cheapest/most open asset to trade (depending on where you trade). In the long term, Bitcoin can be seen as a safe heaven in case of economic ch…

> Like a hyped startup, it doesn't do much yet It does plenty already. I live almost exclusively on Bitcoin. I only get income in Bitcoin, I pay with Bitcoin whenever possible, and I have a Bitcoin-funded debit card for when that's not possible.

I do understand... maybe I wasn't clear enough: it will do more in the future! but it's not Facebook scale yet. Coinbase has 10M users, not 100M, not 1B.

I do bet on BTC to change the world... so I pay in BTC when I can too!

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. People actually use other currencies as a medium of exchange first, and store of value second (usually they purchase assets to store value long term). Bitcoin is the other way round (at present at least).

I save more than I spend, so wouldn't I be mainly using it as a store of value rather than a medium of exchange?

Technically yes, you are treating it as a property rather than currency. Such a property is subject to positive and negative externalities (notably, inflation/deflation), and (where applicable) it is subject to taxation on transference (eg: inheritance tax, gift tax, etc).

From a purely economic perspective, cash is just another liquid asset. The distance from currency to store of value is quite short.

Physical assets are generally regarded as stores of value, however, in modern times, currency stability has resulted in currency supplanting durable goods as the primary store of value.

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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I consider myself pretty tech-savvy, but I'm still completely lost as to whether Bitcoin is basically a pyramid scheme set to crash massively, or something huge that will continue climbing. I probably should've taken the time to mine some back when my friends were doing it and tried convincing me too. Ah well. (Queue heated comments from both sides. Discussing bitcoin is like bringing up religion AND politics at the…

Back in 2002-2005, I knew a whole lot of "tech-savvy" people with top-notch pedigree, who never believed FB/Youtube/Twitter etc would scale as no one had ever built a "many-to-many", pseudo real-time network at that kind of scale before (both technically/financially). Let alone a bunch of 20 year olds.

I was quite convinced by their arguments. Where I was wrong was believing technical arguments mattered.

What matters is the psychology of the herd.

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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I don't know much about bitcoin i'll admit. And I was surpised the other day to read some comments where the poster was saying that the transaction price is somewhere in between 5$ - 20$. Isn't that like... a LOT? I thought the idea of Bitcoins was how easy it would be to make transactions but with a price like that I can image most smaller transactions are discouraged. Also, after the initial hype I haven't really s…

The high transaction fees are symptomatic a large problem that not only has divided the community, its literally forked the currency. There are several proposed solutions, but unless a majority of all bitcoin users agree to implement it, it won't happen.

Here's a rundown of what's happened: https://blog.plan99.net/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experi...

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

#88
To me an asset that moves 15% in a day, and which no-one knows what it's truly worth, isn't great as a store of value. I'm not going to speculate about where bitcoin will be trading when it becomes a stable, useful asset, but in order to justify a market cap anywhere near this high it will eventually need to generate actual utility for its users. Can someone explain where that will come from? Cheap currency conversion and easy money transfer?

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

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I keep seeing my non-it friends boasting on FB how much they profited with Bitcoin this week. I am afraid this bubble will get way much bigger before it bursts.

I'm afraid that like the housing bubble, it'll get "too big to burst" and require intervention to keep those who have previously invested afloat while keeping down those outside the bubble.

Who would bail it out? It isn’t backed by any government with big pockets.

Re: Bitcoin Surges Past $7,000 to Extend Record Rally

#90
I know know what I would do with a time machine.

1) Go back to when I start to put bitcoin mining on my server for fun and than decided it would cost to much in electricity

2) Second time around I wouldn't sell it when it hit $1000 for the first time

3) I would go to the future to see when to see :)

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