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Re: China's Silk Road Illusions

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> Particularly with how Germany really lost the war to the Soviets in late 1942 when they failed to subdue Russia in the early invasion. The west (US/UK/Canada) largely just cleaned up the mess from 1943-45, as the Nazi's were fighting an impossible war after that point. Even then Russia did most of the work in terms of raw combat. But even when this is noted in history books Russia's success is largely dismissed as…

> the USSR's side was largely propped up by the US lend-lease program This is an oft repeated lie we tell ourselves. US contribution to USSR's military production was less than 1%. And by the time our "help" reached the soviet union, the soviets had already beaten the germans. The battle of moscow ended in January 1942. That's when ww2 in europe was over. The rest was brutal clean up duty by the soviets. > Without su…

> US contribution to USSR's military production was less than 1%

Even most blatant Soviet propaganda put that into 4%.

Marshal Zhukov said that Lend-lease was critical to Soviet victory. And that was from a man who took Berlin.

Just a few facts: for USSR lend-lease accounted for 30% of trucks, more than half of aviation fuel and about 93% of railroad equipment.

So it's definetely not a propaganda.

Re: China's Silk Road Illusions

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the USSR's side was largely propped up by the US lend-lease program This is an oft repeated lie we tell ourselves. US contribution to USSR's military production was less than 1%. And by the time our "help" reached the soviet union, the soviets had already beaten the germans. The battle of moscow ended in January 1942. That's when ww2 in europe was over. The rest was brutal clean up duty by the soviets. > Without su…

> US contribution to USSR's military production was less than 1% Even most blatant Soviet propaganda put that into 4%. Marshal Zhukov said that Lend-lease was critical to Soviet victory. And that was from a man who took Berlin. Just a few facts: for USSR lend-lease accounted for 30% of trucks, more than half of aviation fuel and about 93% of railroad equipment. So it's definetely not a propaganda.

> Even most blatant Soviet propaganda put that into 4%.

Does it? 4% is still nothing.

> Marshal Zhukov said that Lend-lease was critical to Soviet victory.

So did stalin. Politicians, generals, etc say a lot of things. Especially about "free" stuff.

> Just a few facts: for USSR lend-lease accounted for 30% of trucks, more than half of aviation fuel and about 93% of railroad equipment.

Facts you just made up?

> So it's definetely not a propaganda.

4% to 93%. Sounds a lot like propaganda.

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