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Re: Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers

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Post by agumonkey »

3131s wrote: post #76
dmingod wrote: post #56

Is there a way to download the whole archive? People can do cool stuff like visualization etc. on it.

Yes, but it's huge. At one time you could torrent it piece by piece but now the link appears broken... http://libgen.io/scimag/repository_torrent_notforall/ Anyone have the current link? Good luck extracting much of anything useful out of older PDFs though.

I thought about mirroring it, the repository db is 200MB and simple in structure, but then you have to have quite a lot of hdd on your side (20, 200TB maybe more, can't recall)

Re: Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers

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Post by ballooney »

Athas wrote: post #62
beloch wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. You produce novel research. 2. You submit novel research to the best journal you think will publish it. 3. The editor (the only person involved actually paid by the journal) invites other researchers to volunteer their time to peer review your research. 4. Assuming your research bears up under scrutiny and the peer reviewers are not actually competitors who decide to filibuster (this happens), your paper passes pe…

Not all fields suffer from this to the same degree. For example, I am a fledgling computing scientist. I mostly publish in ACM-related conferences and workshops, where ACM is an organisation run by and for academics and professionals in the computing field, not a for-profit publisher. My submission experience is: 1. You produce novel research. 2. You submit novel research to the best conference or workshop you think…

To be clear to everyone else, the parent and the grandparent have just described respectively conference papers and journal papers. Journal papers are usually a bit longer and represent more work, conference papers are usually shorter and take a bit less time. This of course is a generalization.

For example, a PhD thesis might be the full written-up version of 3-4 conference papers you'd have published in the course of your PhD, and then you might condense the important part of your thesis into a single journal paper afterwards, but this is only a vague example and there are many ways of skinning this cat. There are many examples of extremely short conference papers that have had a major impact in their field, and there are _millions_ of completely forgettable journal papers.

The above broadly holds for any of the scientific research disciplines with which I'm familiar.

Re: Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers

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Post by dogruck »

wallflower wrote: post #70
mino wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. How can scihub be on #1 on the HN homepage?

I think it is evidence that there a lot more new HN users than old HN users now. I'm not saying this is good or bad, just an observation.

Interesting. Any way to get data on active new user numbers over time?

Regardless, Sci-Hub launched in 2011 and has been frequently discussed in the media since then.

Re: Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers

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Post by vertex-four »

john_minsk wrote: post #58
vertex-four wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of sci-hub is that it fetches specific articles for you, not to be a search engine. Find an article you want - for example, the PolderCast paper[0] - then enter a link or the DOI for that article, and it'll find the paper most of the time. [0] https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2442644

Could you advise any good resource to discover interesting articles?

Unfortunately not, I tend to find something close to what I want via Google and then find papers that it references, and papers that reference it. Review articles are useful, as are benchmark comparisons that you find in some papers.

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Post by jacquesm »

roystonvassey wrote: post #18

ELI5: I'm not from academia so please help me understand. Are researchers who publish these [firewalled/copyrighted] papers likely to lose out on their earnings if this is 'open-sourced'? I'm honestly asking as I try to think through the whole 'open-source' paradigm and how it fits in a (mostly) capitalist, libertarian world. Thanks!

Researchers don't get a dime from those earnings.

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Post by yosamino »

rspeer wrote: post #26
roystonvassey wrote: post #18

ELI5: I'm not from academia so please help me understand. Are researchers who publish these [firewalled/copyrighted] papers likely to lose out on their earnings if this is 'open-sourced'? I'm honestly asking as I try to think through the whole 'open-source' paradigm and how it fits in a (mostly) capitalist, libertarian world. Thanks!

Researchers want you to pirate their paper as often as possible. You can only cite papers you've read, after all. The only royalty check I've ever seen from research I did is for a chapter of a book, and it was less than a dollar. Royalties don't matter.

> The only royalty check [...] was less than a dollar.

And to think that royalty is usually associated with crowns and gold and jewels and such ...

Re: Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers

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Post by saladeen »

Nazzareno wrote: post #4

It scares me actually, when trying a search I got this: поиск временно недоступен. пожалуйста, используйте DOI или прямые ссылки search temporarily unavailable, please use DOI or direct links If you're using Google chrome, you can install Sci-Hub extension to use search. To do this: Download the extension and unpack it. You get the "Sci-Hub" folder with code. Open Chrome and navigate to chrome://extensions, or just o…

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Re: Sci-Hub: Public access to research papers

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Post by gebruikersnaam »

john_minsk wrote: post #58
vertex-four wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of sci-hub is that it fetches specific articles for you, not to be a search engine. Find an article you want - for example, the PolderCast paper[0] - then enter a link or the DOI for that article, and it'll find the paper most of the time. [0] https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2442644

Could you advise any good resource to discover interesting articles?

https://scholar.google.nl/ is a start.
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