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Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by andygcook »

KGIII wrote: post #72
aacook wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha, yes. They were placeholders that ended up going live. Premier is named after our Grandpa, who calls things he loves "Premier". His friend he was in the Boy Scouts in during the 1940s is the Grandfather of Andy's best friend. Anytime my Grandpa talks about Andy's friend's family he calls them the "Premier Family of Weymouth" :) We'll probably keep the Premier plan but need to rename the others.

Bampa and Bumpa are sometimes used for grandfather. Meemaw and Mimmie for grandmother. I noticed your changing text of names. If you do international, the choices are huge. My kids haven't seemed to figure out how to make babies. I've even tried bribery, to no avail. So, I'll send your link to all my old people friends. They can then send the link to their children and guilt them into using your service. Maybe a HN l…

NanaGram, making all your dreams come true. Well, we can't make that grandkid dream come true... but we do what we can: https://imgur.com/a/TjOQc

P.S. We called my grandmother on my Mother's side Mimmie before she passed away years ago. Scratching my head why I missed that one and thank you for the reminder.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by KGIII »

aacook wrote: post #79
KGIII wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bampa and Bumpa are sometimes used for grandfather. Meemaw and Mimmie for grandmother. I noticed your changing text of names. If you do international, the choices are huge. My kids haven't seemed to figure out how to make babies. I've even tried bribery, to no avail. So, I'll send your link to all my old people friends. They can then send the link to their children and guilt them into using your service. Maybe a HN l…

Awesome feedback, thanks. HN launch could be fun. We haven't done that yet. Andy left this comment a couple hours ago on a whim and all of the sudden we're getting tons of crazy feedback! Right now we're just focused on trying to make the service solid for a handful of people. The feedback on pricing is helpful. I'd actually like to get the prices down to half of where they're at now. 6-month stretch goal :) Hadn't t…

LOL I just edited my post - again. She tossed a few ideas out. They actually seem like sound ideas, because she is brilliant and perfect in every way. I like both the ideas, you're obviously not obligated to like them.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

#83

Post by KGIII »

andygcook wrote: post #81
KGIII wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bampa and Bumpa are sometimes used for grandfather. Meemaw and Mimmie for grandmother. I noticed your changing text of names. If you do international, the choices are huge. My kids haven't seemed to figure out how to make babies. I've even tried bribery, to no avail. So, I'll send your link to all my old people friends. They can then send the link to their children and guilt them into using your service. Maybe a HN l…

NanaGram, making all your dreams come true. Well, we can't make that grandkid dream come true... but we do what we can: https://imgur.com/a/TjOQc P.S. We called my grandmother on my Mother's side Mimmie before she passed away years ago. Scratching my head why I missed that one and thank you for the reminder.

Fantastic! The missus has also already started mailing the link out to all of her Grange Hall friends. The thinking is they'd buy subscriptions on behalf of their kids.

She's remarkably interested in the product, if that is a signifier for you. We are old, in our fifties, and financially secure. The vast majority of our friends are in similar positions.

I add this because it may help your marketing choices and, while anecdotal, she does seem intrigued and excited.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by aacook »

andygcook wrote: post #81
KGIII wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bampa and Bumpa are sometimes used for grandfather. Meemaw and Mimmie for grandmother. I noticed your changing text of names. If you do international, the choices are huge. My kids haven't seemed to figure out how to make babies. I've even tried bribery, to no avail. So, I'll send your link to all my old people friends. They can then send the link to their children and guilt them into using your service. Maybe a HN l…

NanaGram, making all your dreams come true. Well, we can't make that grandkid dream come true... but we do what we can: https://imgur.com/a/TjOQc P.S. We called my grandmother on my Mother's side Mimmie before she passed away years ago. Scratching my head why I missed that one and thank you for the reminder.

Oh dude, good thing Mom isn't on HN.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by aacook »

KGIII wrote: post #72
aacook wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha, yes. They were placeholders that ended up going live. Premier is named after our Grandpa, who calls things he loves "Premier". His friend he was in the Boy Scouts in during the 1940s is the Grandfather of Andy's best friend. Anytime my Grandpa talks about Andy's friend's family he calls them the "Premier Family of Weymouth" :) We'll probably keep the Premier plan but need to rename the others.

Bampa and Bumpa are sometimes used for grandfather. Meemaw and Mimmie for grandmother. I noticed your changing text of names. If you do international, the choices are huge. My kids haven't seemed to figure out how to make babies. I've even tried bribery, to no avail. So, I'll send your link to all my old people friends. They can then send the link to their children and guilt them into using your service. Maybe a HN l…

Very good feedback about marketing to Grandparents. We've got some further testing to do.

On pricing, just want to confirm that you're seeing the price of $7.99/mo for 10 photos and not $0.79/mo for 10 photos?

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

kbenson wrote: post #78
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #68

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> Really it's very easy to build your own database software these days > Really it's very easy to build your own car these days Wow really? Hold my beer while I go build some car and a database! You learn something new every day!

Maybe you should read the last sentence again. I think perhaps you missed something.

hah! sorry about that, i indeed did!

That said, if you have to explain your joke, you've failed :) It was too long!

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by KGIII »

aacook wrote: post #85
KGIII wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bampa and Bumpa are sometimes used for grandfather. Meemaw and Mimmie for grandmother. I noticed your changing text of names. If you do international, the choices are huge. My kids haven't seemed to figure out how to make babies. I've even tried bribery, to no avail. So, I'll send your link to all my old people friends. They can then send the link to their children and guilt them into using your service. Maybe a HN l…

Very good feedback about marketing to Grandparents. We've got some further testing to do. On pricing, just want to confirm that you're seeing the price of $7.99/mo for 10 photos and not $0.79/mo for 10 photos?

Yup. The price I'm seeing is $7.99/mo.

Sorry - I switched to a laptop, as it's easier to type this out.

Now, 10 pictures is $7.99 is $0.77 each.

To keep that in mind, and do some quick math...

Package 2 is 25 pictures. If we use the $0.69, then $17.25, which can be rounded down to $16.99.

It's not major until you get higher.

Package 3 is 50 pictures. Using the same progression, now at $0.59 per image, we get $29.50.

Package 5 is 100 pictures. Again, that's now $0.49 which works out to a price of $49.99.

If you wanted...

Package 1 could be $7.99 for 10 (each additional is $0.75)

Package 2 would be $16.99 for 25 (each additional is $0.65)

Package 3 would be $27.99 for 50 (each additional is $0.55)

Package 4 would be $49.99 for 100 (each additional is $0.45)

Something like that. 100 well printed pictures each month? That's well worth $49.99 for many of us.

That's also a lot of pictures - so the idea comes into play of having a single recipient who can have multiple authorized senders. So, the grandparent's three kids could all send pictures to the account. (There's a number of ways to decide if only x-amount get printed, perhaps the final choice is done by the payee.)

You can just email me, if you want. uninvolved@outlook.com is certain to be seen and responded to, eventually.

I don't want to derail the thread too far. I'm just trying to share some quick and dirty marketing data.

If each of my kids made me a grandfather, I'd buy a package of 100 - if they can distribute it between them. If not, I'd buy two packages of 100 - and I'd do so at the $49.99/mo price, no questions asked.

I kinda like the idea of X-dollars for X-number of pictures and then X-number for each additional pictures.

I guess if you were to do that part, you should do the ethical thing and automatically charge them the less expensive price if, for example, they want to send 25 pictures in one month. If they want to send 25 pictures that month, you might as well just charge them for Package 2.

It'd be more ethical and probably encourage people to try higher packages - and then commit to keeping that same level of shared pictures.

And, as said before, there's ton of value-added services that you could toss into this.

Feel free to email, if you want. I'll throw some time at you. I wasn't doing anything better and HN is always good at helping me out when I have a question.

Edit, I typed a number wrong.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by aeriklawson »

myf01d wrote: post #4

I know I am going to be downvoted so hard, but really it's very easy to build you own css these days, css frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows

I think this advice applies most to layout - at work we still heavily use Bootstrap components, but the grid layout we started out with turned into hellspawn really quickly.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by petepete »

yourkin wrote: post #9

Bootstrap 4 is great and a pleasure to work with. Documentation structure on the other hand... Main nav section on the left with subsections on the right is totally counter-intuitive.

Plus occasionally (at least in the earlier days of beta 1) you'd Google something and end up in the Alpha 3 docs without necessarily realising.
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