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Re: I Quit Facebook

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Post by lloeki »

harry8 wrote: post #63
lloeki wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Many people have throwed away their cigarette packs, it's not a big deal, you just announce you're going to do it, get that one last cig with a friend then do it. Others never started to smoke. Life is fine without smoking, if you feel you want to stop smoking, do it. Footage at 11. > Many people have stopped gambling, it's not a big deal, you just announce you're going to do it, get whatever money's left on the ta…

Yup and Facebook would like you to believe it's hard. Cigarette companies encouraged the "I can't quit..." Idea too. If you fail once, twice, eleven times. Try again, keep trying, quitting cigs is really worth the effort. Each failed attempt to quit cigs you learn something you can use to succeed in the future. I don't care for Facebook, I doubt they cause you heart disease etc. Not sure how empathetic it is to those…

> If you fail once, twice, eleven times. Try again, keep trying, quitting cigs is really worth the effort. Each failed attempt to quit cigs you learn something you can use to succeed in the future.

Been there, done^Wdoing that. Fourth attempt in progress, each time I'm inching closer to be done with this crap for good.

> I don't care for Facebook, I doubt they cause you heart disease etc

Mind disease surely. By receiving constant stimuli and dopamine hits the mind is plasticly shaped to expect regular, immediate, worthless rewards and can't contend anymore with long term effort for bigger, worthwhile rewards, whether physical, social, intellectual or spiritual. IOW it makes you feel like shit for even trying to do anything that matters.

Re: I Quit Facebook

#82

Post by zimpenfish »

coldtea wrote: post #77
zimpenfish wrote: post #72

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Or "social media" can cover "human connections" adequately as a better description without being one and the same or inextricably tied.

Note for the purposes of the parent's comment "this generation was ridiculously over attached to social media". It's not that humans have developed some bizarro attachment to human connections in general. If anything, human connections have suffered a lot in our age (see all the relevant studies about the rise of loneliness and its impact). What we do have developed is a bizarro attachment to social media -- spending…

> see all the relevant studies about the rise of loneliness and its impact

I've seen a bunch of those studies and in the absence of historical studies, there's nothing to show that it isn't just that people are more open about being lonely now compared with, say, even just 50 years ago.

Also there's nothing to show this is due to the rise in "social media" as opposed to changing dynamics in family structures or the general fuckheadery of politics etc.

> What we do have developed is a bizarro attachment to social media

There are people in there - it's not "bizarro" in the slightest.

Re: I Quit Facebook

#83

Post by sreyaNotfilc »

seanwilson wrote: post #43

I can't help but feel that if Facebook has such a huge negative influence on your life, the problem isn't Facebook but something deeper you need to resolve in yourself. If you're getting hopelessly addicted to Facebook or letting it make you feel bad, you're probably just going to replace it with something else until you fix the reason you let it impact you that way. I use Facebook to keep up with friends and arrange…

My point exactly. I can't for the life of me see how Facebook can be so addictive (based on the application itself).

If you're the type of person who HAS to know what other people are doing, then 'yes' Facebook will take over your life.

I'm always so busy (and can careless of the day-2-day of people) that I'm barely on the platform. And when I am, its probably for 5-10 mins every month (unless someone Messages me).

I'm thinking that closing your account may slowdown your addiction, but there are other apps, sites, avenues to be 'in the know'.

Maybe Facebook in this case means all social networking apps?

Re: I Quit Facebook

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Post by KekDemaga »

exergy wrote: post #65
avip wrote: post #18

Please change the title. yet-another-random-dude-closes-his-fb-account. He did not close his medium account though, so he can blog about his amazing journey clicking few buttons on a webform.

Plus, it seems like he deactivated it instead of deleting it. Which basically is the equivalent of logging out, from the user's perspective. So all the pomp and circumstance and the quoting of Trump and Snowden seems even more ridiculous to me. Like, have the balls to fucking do it properly.

"What myopic lives they had 1000 years ago" - Future historians reading this blog post

Re: I Quit Facebook

#85

Post by coldtea »

zimpenfish wrote: post #82
coldtea wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note for the purposes of the parent's comment "this generation was ridiculously over attached to social media". It's not that humans have developed some bizarro attachment to human connections in general. If anything, human connections have suffered a lot in our age (see all the relevant studies about the rise of loneliness and its impact). What we do have developed is a bizarro attachment to social media -- spending…

> see all the relevant studies about the rise of loneliness and its impact I've seen a bunch of those studies and in the absence of historical studies, there's nothing to show that it isn't just that people are more open about being lonely now compared with, say, even just 50 years ago. Also there's nothing to show this is due to the rise in "social media" as opposed to changing dynamics in family structures or the g…

The modern over-reliance on statistics and "expert opinions" for things that should be plenty obvious by mere observation is infantilizing and detrimental to thinking. It's like we only experience the world through ready-made conclusions.

Even so, we do have studies that have already tracked levels of various symptoms of decreased social interaction / cohesion / etc spanning over decades.

Re: I Quit Facebook

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Post by reustle »

halokonrad wrote: post #44

I just decreased my Facebook use to minimal. Won't remove it because of possible FB identity theft. You can do more and more with Facebook Account it's just just scary to lose control over my profile.

I've seen a copy of a few friends already created, even myself. They then friended all of my friends. Fb is pretty quick to delete them once reported

Re: I Quit Facebook

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Post by [deleted] »

lloeki wrote: post #81
harry8 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup and Facebook would like you to believe it's hard. Cigarette companies encouraged the "I can't quit..." Idea too. If you fail once, twice, eleven times. Try again, keep trying, quitting cigs is really worth the effort. Each failed attempt to quit cigs you learn something you can use to succeed in the future. I don't care for Facebook, I doubt they cause you heart disease etc. Not sure how empathetic it is to those…

> If you fail once, twice, eleven times. Try again, keep trying, quitting cigs is really worth the effort. Each failed attempt to quit cigs you learn something you can use to succeed in the future. Been there, done^Wdoing that. Fourth attempt in progress, each time I'm inching closer to be done with this crap for good. > I don't care for Facebook, I doubt they cause you heart disease etc Mind disease surely. By recei…

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Re: I Quit Facebook

#88

Post by [deleted] »

lloeki wrote: post #81
harry8 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup and Facebook would like you to believe it's hard. Cigarette companies encouraged the "I can't quit..." Idea too. If you fail once, twice, eleven times. Try again, keep trying, quitting cigs is really worth the effort. Each failed attempt to quit cigs you learn something you can use to succeed in the future. I don't care for Facebook, I doubt they cause you heart disease etc. Not sure how empathetic it is to those…

> If you fail once, twice, eleven times. Try again, keep trying, quitting cigs is really worth the effort. Each failed attempt to quit cigs you learn something you can use to succeed in the future. Been there, done^Wdoing that. Fourth attempt in progress, each time I'm inching closer to be done with this crap for good. > I don't care for Facebook, I doubt they cause you heart disease etc Mind disease surely. By recei…

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Re: I Quit Facebook

#89

Post by nextlevelwizard »

zimpenfish wrote: post #80
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #79

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>It is, it really is. Maybe we have extremely different feeds, but I mostly just see junk updates like: "walking the dogs", "just had breakfast", "just got home from work", "yay friday", "look we are at bar/party/gathering", "argh! mondays suck" Then there are some random quiz/ad/lottery things. And random pictures of people's kids/pets. I get much more human interaction out of IRC and Discord, places where you can a…

> I mostly just see junk updates See, if you're calling things like those "junk updates", I'd venture the problem is on your end. > Then there are some random quiz/ad/lottery things. Those I will agree do not count as human connections. > places where you can actually talk and not just like and comment. How is commenting not "talking"? Unless you're restricting "talk" to solely mean "synchronous discussion" which is…

>See, if you're calling things like those "junk updates", I'd venture the problem is on your end.

There is just no value in these updates. Who cares you just ate a plate of casserole at home? What value is in griping over Mondays? I'm always globbed in with "millenials", but I feel anything but one. I see no value in any of the social media sites everyone seems to use. Maybe just because I don't know how to use them, but in the past I've tried in vein updating them, but I never have anything meaningful to say and I am definitely not going start posting pictures of the shit I eat.

Re: I Quit Facebook

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Post by zimpenfish »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #89
zimpenfish wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mostly just see junk updates See, if you're calling things like those "junk updates", I'd venture the problem is on your end. > Then there are some random quiz/ad/lottery things. Those I will agree do not count as human connections. > places where you can actually talk and not just like and comment. How is commenting not "talking"? Unless you're restricting "talk" to solely mean "synchronous discussion" which is…

>See, if you're calling things like those "junk updates", I'd venture the problem is on your end. There is just no value in these updates. Who cares you just ate a plate of casserole at home? What value is in griping over Mondays? I'm always globbed in with "millenials", but I feel anything but one. I see no value in any of the social media sites everyone seems to use. Maybe just because I don't know how to use them,…

> Who cares you just ate a plate of casserole at home?

Ok, you don't care but you are not the world. In my experience, people ask what was in it, what recipe you used, how you cooked it.

> What value is in griping over Mondays?

Again, in my experience, it leads to a sharing of experiences.

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