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OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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TL;DR: OxygenOS tracks your every activity in every app, and there's no settings to disable the tracking. To get rid of it you have to uninstall the tracking app via adb: (no root access needed) $ adb start-server $ adb shell > pm uninstall -k --user 0 net.oneplus.odm Note: This requires adb to be installed, your phone to be connected and USB debugging to be enabled.

I caught them doing this a while ago when I first got my OnePlus 3:

https://twitter.com/__Tux/status/754085708843786240

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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The sales page is nice and all, but this is the page that matters: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/ . TL;DR: we collect the shit out of you and share it with third parties as we see fit. If you disagree you will get a crippled experience

Yes, but be careful: > Personal information will only be shared by Apple to provide or improve our products, services and advertising; it will not be shared with third parties for their marketing purposes. This goes in contrast with most tech companies such as Amazon and Google. However, Apple does have the horrible clause: > in the event of a reorganization, merger, or sale we may transfer any and all personal infor…

>> in the event of a reorganization, merger, or sale we may transfer any and all personal information we collect to the relevant third party.

> This clause should be considered the antichrist of clauses, because it just makes the entire policy void in case of a merger. Not that I see Apple being acquired by anyone soon, but still.

Google's clause:

If Google is involved in a merger, acquisition or asset sale, we will continue to ensure the confidentiality of any personal information and give affected users notice before personal information is transferred or becomes subject to a different privacy policy.

I like Google's more :-).

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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What other options do you have if you want a smartphone? I severely doubt that other devices (most notably Apple) are any better. I think that if you don't want this to happen you have to buy a dumbphone, which may or may not be an option for some people.

I'd settle for a dumbphone with WhatsApp and a solid browser. I miss having to only recharge once a week.

To get a solid browser with a decent experience though you're going to pretty much need most of a smart phone's performance anyways and most of the power drain because you'll probably want a good screen and decent performance on the browser so a good processor too. Dumb phones lasted so long because they had really low power processors and beyond texting and calls there was no reason to constantly interact with them so they could be in a really low power state 90% of the time.

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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TL;DR: OxygenOS tracks your every activity in every app, and there's no settings to disable the tracking. To get rid of it you have to uninstall the tracking app via adb: (no root access needed) $ adb start-server $ adb shell > pm uninstall -k --user 0 net.oneplus.odm Note: This requires adb to be installed, your phone to be connected and USB debugging to be enabled.

I caught them doing this a while ago when I first got my OnePlus 3: https://twitter.com/__Tux/status/754085708843786240

You _are_ featured in the article with that exact tweet, right? :)

Re: OnePlus OxygenOS built-in analytics

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I caught them doing this a while ago when I first got my OnePlus 3: https://twitter.com/__Tux/status/754085708843786240

You _are_ featured in the article with that exact tweet, right? :)

Haha, yeah. Jumped the gun and pasted the tweet while making breakfast before reading it.

That was a bit surreal.

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Apple gives you an option for telemetry on first boot. No idea how much that option turns off. Not sure if the phone sends anything to Apple with that option and not using Apple services (that’s pretty hard because of the App Store; if you really care about iPhone privacy you’d want to download all your apps once then never touch the store again).

Some friends using apple complain about the data usage and they don't understand where the data consumption is coming from, even with the data tracking apps. Don't know what's going on with the latest versions of iOS.

iOS settings has data usage by app, including several “system services.” Do those numbers not add up?

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I have absolutely no doubt there is some data centre in Shenzhen full of my Huawei phone metrics! I think this is the biggest issue with android phones, they are full of potential data leakages like this. Privacy is definitely a concern and a pull factor to getting an iPhone again. There is a lot to be said for a company that is focused on hardware and not on serving content to that device. Then again it's also a rea…

This makes me wonder: why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone? What has gone wrong?

Smart phones followed a very different path of evolution that was heavily influenced by cell carriers. Apple had to fight really hard to get the iPhone carried, and to do that they had to lock it down to comply with what I am sure were a long laundry list of carrier demands.

This was the era of flip phones when carriers had full control. They really didn't want to lose that control. I doubt a company smaller and less influential than Apple could possibly have gotten a full-fledge computer of any kind onto cell networks.

This led the entire mobile ecosystem down a path where the device is locked down by design even though today carriers are less able to influence that.

Add to that the emergence of surveillance-driven advertising as a way to monetize "free." It's very hard to compete with free (or subsidized) products. Most people compare price vs feature set, not privacy or security. So there was a huge economic incentive to turn phones into little surveillance devices to siphon up data to be used to drive advertising.

Without surveillance capitalism most apps would cost money and phones would probably cost a lot more.

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This makes me wonder: why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone? What has gone wrong?

"why can we have a top of the line desktop PC which is totally libre, but not a smartphone?" "totally libre PC"? All major CPU manufacturers implement hardware level backdoor we can't disable. The newest version of the most popular OS tracks your every step by default. All of these tiny chips in pretty much any modern electronic device are full of binary blobs you have no way to inspect. Maybe we live in different wo…

PCs are comparatively much more open than phones, and it is actually possible to disable some of that stuff with various hacks on some systems.

Phones are closed, locked down, and bugged by design.

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