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CBS's Showtime caught mining crypto-coins in viewers' web browsers

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Re: CBS's Showtime caught mining crypto-coins in viewers' web browsers

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Post by icanhackit »

wolco wrote: post #80
icanhackit wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why is this not a potential legitimate business model? I was thinking the same thing the other day when I first heard about it. One of the main issues with existing subscription models is that some people only want to consume a small fraction of what is available from a service provider (news, music, video etc) yet have to pay a not-insignificant fee for access to everything. A good example would be the latest Star…

Running this at full speed will turn on your fan on and having this running could damage or limit the life of your computer. It's like driving for uber where in the end you pay more for repairs than you would in salary.

At the end of my post I suggested it be standardised at the browser level for this purpose. Just because the implementation sucks now doesn't mean it has to always suck.

Re: CBS's Showtime caught mining crypto-coins in viewers' web browsers

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Post by jiggunjer »

cptskippy wrote: post #39
crooked-v wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mining in Javascript will get you less than the infrastructure costs to provide the videos, let alone replacing ad revenue.

What about a clever webgl shader to leverage the GPU?

Or a browser that offers a first-class mining API. Then we'll see every device come with a specialized mining chip. As long as you meet the required number of hashes you get the add-free experience.

Re: CBS's Showtime caught mining crypto-coins in viewers' web browsers

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Post by _Codemonkeyism »

wavefunction wrote: post #75
brailsafe wrote: post #68

I bet some clever person on the marketing team just went ahead and inserted the tag. My first experience on a large corporate dev team was eye-opening. While the core product code was version controlled and reviewed, the marketing team had the power to insert any kind of scripts onto the page without clearance. In theory, anything new on the page would require many ridiculous meetings. In practice, they could and did…

Then your code wasn't version controlled and reviewed. I had a similar request for Google Tags and I explained my concerns to my CTO and voila, no Google Tags that didn't come through us.

It depends on the market pressure and resources you have.

Low pressure, many resources (money) => Review/Implement all Google Tags changes

High pressure, low resources (money) => Marketing can do their own thing to reduce pressure on the development team.

HM and LL are somewhere in between.

Classic trade off like most of the things in software development.

Re: CBS's Showtime caught mining crypto-coins in viewers' web browsers

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Post by pcwalton »

hellbanner wrote: post #4

The web seriously sucks. One thing I admire, at least in theory, about Xbox 360 games or iOS apps is the limited access a specific program can run. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiqioE1zGCw talks about this Why is the overwhelming majority of networked software still not secure, despite all effort to the contrary? Why is it almost certain to get exploited so long as attackers can craft its inputs? Why is it the cas…

The Web with a gatekeeper isn't the Web anymore. If you want a curated walled garden, App Stores are readily available and have tons of content.

Re: CBS's Showtime caught mining crypto-coins in viewers' web browsers

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Post by _Codemonkeyism »

hellbanner wrote: post #4

The web seriously sucks. One thing I admire, at least in theory, about Xbox 360 games or iOS apps is the limited access a specific program can run. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiqioE1zGCw talks about this Why is the overwhelming majority of networked software still not secure, despite all effort to the contrary? Why is it almost certain to get exploited so long as attackers can craft its inputs? Why is it the cas…

Because C.

Re: CBS's Showtime caught mining crypto-coins in viewers' web browsers

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Post by reecree »

CoryHallpdp11 wrote: post #63
damnstraight wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It only really makes sense with browser-level cpu scheduling. Otherwise there's no real way to throttle the amount of cpu these bitcoin miners take from you. Without that, I think people are unlikely to be sympathetic and they'll be snagged by ad blockers rapidly: consent is the cornerstone of products people like.

adblock-nocoin-list https://github.com/hoshsadiq/adblock-nocoin-list/

This is great! Thanks!

Re: CBS's Showtime caught mining crypto-coins in viewers' web browsers

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Post by [deleted] »

6nf wrote: post #72
quintin wrote: post #31

I’ve been running a miner via coin-hive.com. The earnings are ridiculously low. With 5 ad slots, I make around $6 RPM. With coin-hive/monero, it's not even equivalent to $0.5. Unless you are a website with the page open for hours and you have millions of views, this does not even make sense. Or maybe I am not doing this right.

Yes this is what I calculated as well. Regular ads are still way more profitable - even if you somehow convince all your visitors to keep your page open 24/7. Even coinhive admit that you can't use this to make real money.

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