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Re: iPhone X

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Post by kevingrahl »

dopamean wrote: post #48

I turned off the stream because I needed to get back to work. Did they say anything about security for FaceID? Such as where the data about your face is stored. Or what about just holding up a photo of someone?

It’s stored in the secure enclave locally on the device. They said it can’t be fooled by photographs and they tested it with “Hollywood mask makers”. It’s “one in a million”.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by trurl »

paul7986 wrote: post #37
chris_7 wrote: post #13

I unlock my phone in my pocket with Touch ID all the time - ready to go and on the home screen by the time I've flipped it around in my hand. Feels like a straight downgrade in usability. also, some engineer at apple had to continuously grow a beard to test this

Indeed especially when driving that millions of us shouldn't be doing but do anyway. Touch ID made it so easy to unlock ... can't imagine Face ID being a better in this scenario.

TouchID is great, but if I've been sweating or have some moisture on my hands for another reason (say I'm cooking and want to check the recipe) it fails horribly.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by danijelb »

raesene9 wrote: post #27
danijelb wrote: post #22

FaceID shows the difference between Apple and other smartphone manufacturers. Apple doesn't release features until they are absolutely sure they can engineer them to work perfectly.

How do you know it'll work perfectly? No-one actually has one of these to test it yet.

Of course I don't. But the presentation gives enough information to be able to assume it is secure. Some other manufacturers' solutions can be tricked with photos. Since Apple mentioned dot projector, you can assume they are tracking the 3D model of your face which by itself should be much more secure. And it works with Apple Pay, the banks wouldn't allow it if it wasn't equivalent to Touch ID.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by chris_7 »

usaphp wrote: post #38
chris_7 wrote: post #13

I unlock my phone in my pocket with Touch ID all the time - ready to go and on the home screen by the time I've flipped it around in my hand. Feels like a straight downgrade in usability. also, some engineer at apple had to continuously grow a beard to test this

But then you have to adjust your grip, at least for me when I unlock my iphone I am using a different grip then when I try to click an icon on a homescreen, so if I would use face ID - it will save me some time for adjusting grip, at least that's what I imagine, of course nobody have tries face ID yet.

So what I'm talking about is: I place my thumb on the home button and three fingers on the back of the phone, while grabbing it in my pocket. The fingers are initially pointed down, in the same direction of the phone. As I drag it out of my pocket, I click the home button and flip the phone around, so now my fingers are horizontal across the phone (standard phone-holding position basically). It's almost always unlocked by the time I can see anything on the screen.

This requires you to always orient the screen "inwards" (towards your leg).

Re: iPhone X

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Post by aluhut »

marcell wrote: post #30

FaceID seems pretty impressive, if it works as advertised, and it sounds like they've thought of a lot of edge cases. I can't get over the black bar at the top of iPhone X though. It looks like it has devil horns...

I'm looking forward for the CCC hack of this. Maybe you can now tape the picture around your face.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by matthberg »

It's interesting how Apple is moving away from being the first phone with a feature (face id, Samsung did that before, or oled displays that are edge to edge). I think the shift from that innovation is a maturing step, but also a sign that the company is aging poorly. They can no longer claim to be leading with creation, just with quality. More and more the focus in smartphone development, not just Apple, is on being the best of what currently exists instead of actually bringing groundbreaking technology to the table.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by deedubaya »

Say what you want about practicality, the facial tracking on this is pretty impressive..... aaannnd Apple uses it to give us the Poop Animoji.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by egypturnash »

captainmuon wrote: post #33

...and all I wonder is why they are skipping number 9? Are the negative connotations some culture? iPhone NEIN? With Windows 9, there was at least the explanation that software might confuse it with Windows 9x (which I didn't buy, since there is view api returning the version as a string, and Windows shims GetVersion if you don't declare compatibility anyway). More on topic, this looks nice, I think people will not b…

Probably because it's been ten years since the original iPhone, and they feel this one's far enough from the original to merit the version bump.

They may also be trying to indicate that they feel this iPhone is on a par with OSX for productivity or something.

Re: iPhone X

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Post by dopamean »

matthberg wrote: post #87

It's interesting how Apple is moving away from being the first phone with a feature (face id, Samsung did that before, or oled displays that are edge to edge). I think the shift from that innovation is a maturing step, but also a sign that the company is aging poorly. They can no longer claim to be leading with creation, just with quality. More and more the focus in smartphone development, not just Apple, is on being…

Hasn't this been true for a while?
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