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Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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My only question is, which Slack alternative does not use half my CPUs and suck down my battery just to run ideally in the background?

Most IRC clients

Can you recommend an IRC client that works for non-technical folks that also works with api and webhooks capabilities?

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…

matrix.org/riot.im (if you want open source protocol and client. it also has bridges to most others)

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

#83
post #48

Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…

A common discussion I have with other developers. For a developer I'd say I'm a little more people minded than average, and a lot more big picture success oriented. And in both regards your personal productivity doesn't really matter. The biggest problem in software development is actually not per-coder-performance but that the right things get solved, and that the solution are actually good and quickly finished. Thi…

This is well said... although I think its unlikely to be a popular opinion with people at a personal level, but I hope the people who find themselves disagreeing take a moment to reflect on it.

While I think it's fair to say these sorts of applications do disrupt people and reduce their productivity, I'm certain that they help focus team efforts in a way that meetings just don't.

You can't split off 3 members of the team and have an important technical discussion during a meeting (or if you can, your project manager / meeting organizer isn't doing their job). You can't come back later and see exactly what it is you said that you'd do after a meeting. You can't tell a bot to create a bunch of tickets or what the current status of a system is.

If you find that your chat apps are not providing you with any value, maybe you're using them for stupid purposes like sharing funny pictures & this mornings cool tech blog post, or you're subscribed to the support channel, or your team is treating them like a social hang out space.

It's not that its a bad tool; its that you're using it wrong.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm looking forward to Matrix eating all of their lunches. There absolutely no reason to have competing standards in this space. A horrible duplication of effort.

Can't resist referring to the relevant xkcd here: https://xkcd.com/927/

In all fairness, only one of the (here) spoken applications are actually open, and able to even remotely be referred to as a competing standard.

That comic would be more applicable if we were all debating XMPP vs Matrix.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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post #52

Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…

Discord is more in line with TeamSpeak and Mumble; being that it's targeting gamers.

You're correct that there's a lot more overlap with the gamer space, but that's not limiting them right now or in the future. They'd be wise to court other communication needs.

Anecdotally, I really enjoy the Reactiflux discord server/group: https://www.reactiflux.com/

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…

I wish people used IRC instead of all of these proprietary tools. I don't love the Slack client, xchat is much better.

It is possible to connect to Slack with an IRC client:

https://get.slack.help/hc/en-us/articles/201727913-Connect-t...

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

#89
post #66

now we just need a chat app that bridges all the chat apps. (again)

I just checked if Trillian was working on something like this, similar to their IM/IRC/Email/FB/etc. bridging tool. Instead, they are offering more competition in this space, Trillian for Business: www.trillian.im

Guess we will have to wait for someone else to fill this niche.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A common discussion I have with other developers. For a developer I'd say I'm a little more people minded than average, and a lot more big picture success oriented. And in both regards your personal productivity doesn't really matter. The biggest problem in software development is actually not per-coder-performance but that the right things get solved, and that the solution are actually good and quickly finished. Thi…

This is well said... although I think its unlikely to be a popular opinion with people at a personal level, but I hope the people who find themselves disagreeing take a moment to reflect on it. While I think it's fair to say these sorts of applications do disrupt people and reduce their productivity, I'm certain that they help focus team efforts in a way that meetings just don't. You can't split off 3 members of the…

It doesn't help that emoji and giphy are listed as prime features in this new offering.

You're right that the applications can be used productively. I find that my work Slack is a lot less focused on being productive than the dev channels that I follow in Discord for open source projects.

The other big issue is the discussion of asynchronous versus realtime communication: https://blog.doist.com/why-were-betting-against-real-time-te...

I do find that in some Discord servers we accidentally exclude people living in different time zones, which is not as much the case with an async medium like Google Groups or other mailing lists.

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