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The Incredible Growth of Python
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Re: The Incredible Growth of Python
#82Python 2 advocates were quite firm in telling us that Python 3 and its incompatibility with Python 2 had killed Python and people would abandon Python altogether in droves for other languages. This post is suggesting the opposite, that Python is more healthy than ever and growing incredibly fast.
Three of us (including me), in an academic lab, are making the jump from matlab to python. We use py3 (of Anaconda, on Windows10). We like it, but we are constantly screaming and bitching about the complications of 2 3 ("Ahhh X and Y module only works on py2!", "Ahhh device developer only provides example code for Labview and Matlab!", "Ahhh python isn't even supported for this device/application!"). Package manageme…
>I think the one thing we are all learning from this experience is: JUST USE UBUNTU, doing python with Windows is a headache.
Meh. I use python on Windows all the time - it's not a problem. Mostly pip just works.
Of course, I have over a decade of experience with Python - albeit only the last few years in Windows.
Re: The Incredible Growth of Python
#83We've standardised on Python and we're migrating all of our systems to Python / Django / Postgres from PHP / Drupal / WordPress / MySQL. We started out with one senior Dev on the Python stack, and simply found that the productivity on Python/Django just too compelling to stay on PHP. The (senior) Dev on Python had a couple of highly successful projects which resulted with him getting some junior Dev support. Then the…
> We started out with one senior Dev on the Python stack, and simply found that the productivity on Python/Django just too compelling to stay on PHP. There is nothing inherently "more productive" on one stack over the next. It's just technologies which are fundamentally similar. A competent senior dev on the python stack would be just as productive as a competent senior dev on a php stack and vice versa. It just seem…
Absolutely false.
While PHP has gotten better recently, the language is not nearly as powerful or complete as almost all of the popular alternatives. Up until very recently, something like the Django ORM was impossible to express in PHP. Take an honest look at the available frameworks (especially in comparison to something archaic like Drupal) and you'll find there's no competition.
Re: The Incredible Growth of Python
#84TL;DR: Slightly interesting but narrowly focused article with clickbait-ish headline. It charts the growth of Stack Overflow python question views in the last five years. While this is an interesting statistic there is no additional analysis that it correlates to python's usage growth. And no hypothesis is given for the growth in question views, although they tease a future post about that. It would have been far mor…
As others have pointed out, more people coming out of school know it.
When I started my job, the company (fairly large one) was mostly Perl. Perl was the big language of a past generation, so when those engineers were hired, Perl was king. I was told by at least two people that having Python on my resume is not a boost for engineering companies (not counting software), as most managers had never heard of it.
Not too many years later, a lot of new work in the company is being done in Python. Why? Because that's what the newer employees know and prefer.
I think in the software world, Python was big a long time ago (even in the days I joined). But non-software companies were stuck with Tcl and Perl for much longer. Now that they're shifting, you will see some of that growth.
Re: The Incredible Growth of Python
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Package management was so frustrating coming from Ruby to Python. There are so many programs, and version conflicts that I run into all the time. With gems and bundler, it was rare if things didn't work.
Really? Pip should be pretty straight forward. Maybe you use different libraries than I do.
pip (py2) on windows is an absolute disaster. pip install numpy ....
if you are using windows, using python without this website is nearly impossible: http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
Re: The Incredible Growth of Python
#86This is probably related to explosion of interest in AI and deep learning (DL), because Python has become THE standard language for AI/DL research. Most AI frameworks support Python out of the box, including TensorFlow, PyTorch, Theano, and CAFFE/CAFFE2, which together currently have the most developer mindshare. Every single TensorFlow, Pytorch, Theano, and CAFFE/CAFFE2 tutorial or example is written in Python. With…
And rich countries are ahead of the curve in data science, AI and DL.
Re: The Incredible Growth of Python
#87My hypothesis is that all this caused by data science, machine learning, and deep learning. R is quite cryptic and hard to learn. Almost all new libraries for DS are written in Python.
Also, in favor of this hypothesis is that rich countries are ahead of the curve in DS adoption. It's much harder to find a DS job in a developing or not so wealthy developed country than in US.
Re: The Incredible Growth of Python
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We started out with one senior Dev on the Python stack, and simply found that the productivity on Python/Django just too compelling to stay on PHP. There is nothing inherently "more productive" on one stack over the next. It's just technologies which are fundamentally similar. A competent senior dev on the python stack would be just as productive as a competent senior dev on a php stack and vice versa. It just seem…
Absolutely false. While PHP has gotten better recently, the language is not nearly as powerful or complete as almost all of the popular alternatives. Up until very recently, something like the Django ORM was impossible to express in PHP. Take an honest look at the available frameworks (especially in comparison to something archaic like Drupal) and you'll find there's no competition.
Python certainly has a lot more software written for it. I use it for scientific computing.
For building websites, php has plenty of good options too. I do really like the Silex framework for website construction. I backend process with java or python when needed to do any substantial computations.
The "standardization" on common libraries from symfony and zend, have made everything a lot better.
Re: The Incredible Growth of Python
#89python has a cool name. as time goes on new kids learn to program. kids choose the programming language with the cool name.
Isn't Java a cool name? How would you operationalize the "coolness" of a name? Maybe you could use pytorch for this? It seems like a supervised learning problem.
no name could make java cool
Re: The Incredible Growth of Python
#90Does the usage of a site like SO (where you ask for help) necessarily correlate with growth of a language? Or more specifically, does the difference between views of two different languages on SO correlate with real world difference of growth between those two languages? As a personal example, I've searched for answers related to golang far less than I have for python because I tend to find my answers by simply readi…
Not the usage in absolute terms (as it may just indicate the language requires a lot of SO research to do anything useful), but the growth of such usage would seem to correlate with growth of the language.