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Re: Android Oreo

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Post by Nomentatus »

dsp1234 wrote: post #43
randyrand wrote: post #28

Why on earth did they go with a restricted trademark, Oreo? Oreo must have payed a good sum of money I suppose? Coming up with the legalese on how and where Google is allowed to use the Oreo trademark seems difficult.

Does INTERCONTINENTAL GREAT BRANDS LLC have a trademark for Oreo in the "computer and scientific" or telecommunications categories? If not, then there is no trademark issue. Google isn't selling a food, it's selling an operating system.

Interesting point - the origin of trademark laws is as a way to reduce "consumer confusion." Few people are gonna try to eat their phones as a result of this naming convention so it's hard for Nabisco to claim that consumers are being misled.

Re: Android Oreo

#82

Post by keepkalm »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #9
ghughes wrote: post #5

The awful scroll hijacking implementation on this page really distracts from the content.

Yeah I tried scrolling down to see if it had any information regarding how or when this update would be released to their own phones and the scroll was just all over the place. I really wish everyone would stop hijacking scrolling.

I guess it is pretty common for sites with parallax. It's pretty damn annoying.

Re: Android Oreo

#83

Post by izacus »

josu wrote: post #76

So according to the release the new features are: -Picture in picture (dual app onscreen) -Notification dots and "force-touch-like-feature" (my words, not Google's) to preview -Google Play Protect (an antivirus) [0] -Minimize unintentional overuse of battery from apps in the background -Faster boot speed -Support forAndroid Instant Apps -Over 60 new emoji (sic) Under the hood stuff, not in the release (thanks u/izaku…

Missed important under-the-hood stuff:

- Project Treble that splits hardware HAL layer away from the OS layer. Plan being that this allows updating the OS without having to update the whole hardware driver stack (and thus avoid being dependant on Qualcomms of the world to update their proprietary blobs for each release)

- GPU drivers are now updatable via Play Store (by OEMs)

Re: Android Oreo

#84

Post by hughes »

Really sad about the loss of the blob emojis. Will probably have to root my phone to use a third party emoji switcher app to preserve them.

Re: Android Oreo

#85

Post by sturmen »

fenwick67 wrote: post #22

"new emoji" is an OS-level feature now. Welcome to 2017.

And perhaps for the final time. Google has released a support library[1] to put the onus back on individual app developers to integrate support for new emoji, and it is compatible all the way back to 4.4 (Kit Kat).

[1] https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/look-and-feel/...

Re: Android Oreo

#86

Post by bch »

s17n wrote: post #46
adamjmi wrote: post #25

I don't like the product placement in the release name.

If by "product placement" you mean that Nabisco paid Google for this, I doubt that is the case. If anything, the money would have gone the other way.

I see there seems to be a dearth of common, easy o-names, but is the name that valuable, and they refused to punt to "orange _______"?

Re: Android Oreo

#87

Post by necro »

fenwick67 wrote: post #22

"new emoji" is an OS-level feature now. Welcome to 2017.

I hear ya...of the two bolded feature headings in the story we get: 1. Supersonic speed ( always welcome ) 2. League of extraordinary emojis ( the last thing I would care about in a new os release )

Re: Android Oreo

#88

Post by non_sequitur »

jerf wrote: post #75
IkmoIkmo wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only they're marketing it with oreo cookie mascot, look at all the material. I highly doubt you can just do that. It's the same with kit kat, they probably couldn't just use that, either. But it's a win-win for both parties, I doubt either of them paid.

They can't, without permission. The logical conclusion is that they have permission, not that one of the largest companies in the world made a legal mistake that the "We Are Not A Lawyer"s on HN can see right through... for (at least) a second time . Keep an eye out for Oreo packages with Android branding material on them, in the style of: http://cdn.redmondpie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/kitkata... I do find myse…

They definitely had permission. Android was cross marketed on Kit Kat bars as well, e.g.: http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1444541.13782299...

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by amrrs »

Has Google ever released a report on how much time it takes an average flagship device to get the latest android version? Even if you've paid $$$$ in getting Samsung Galaxy S8 just recently, you're not going to get Android O tomorrow morning. But that's definitely the case with iOS. That makes a huge difference in the world where Software updates play a huge role in performance and functionality than hardware update (read. Image processing vs 13Mp to 16Mp camera) Google hasn't been successful in that.

Re: Android Oreo

#90

Post by comstock »

hsjoberg wrote: post #55
dsp1234 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does INTERCONTINENTAL GREAT BRANDS LLC have a trademark for Oreo in the "computer and scientific" or telecommunications categories? If not, then there is no trademark issue. Google isn't selling a food, it's selling an operating system.

Are they really selling an OS? It's free right? They sell something else with android but can't figure out what...

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not sorry.

Android is in itself a loss making project. It makes money as a marketing vehicle for other Google products (and therefore ultimately advertising).

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