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SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Post by TekMol »

alistproducer2 wrote: post #49
alistproducer2 wrote: post #32

I pretty much saw this coming. Posted to a IPFS group last year about using IPFS to make a decentralized soundcloud clone. I was lucky enough to get a response from Juan, the creator of IPFS. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ipfs-users/1Mu2Vh8sh...

I honestly don't understand the hate. If you're going to DV me at least take a sec to read the thread or let me know what your issue is. The thread has some good responses from Juan; that's really the only reason I posted it here. I thought of going decentralized because (at the time) I loved soundcloud. I used it as an artist and also as a listener. I've been around long enough to know that their model was not susta…

I see 2 problems with this approach:

1) IPFS does not work in the browser.

2) People might not want to share because of the copyright issue.

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Post by Raphmedia »

ipsum2 wrote: post #29

Shameless plug: if you or your friends have important data on SoundCloud, check out my free service to back it up: https://scupper.io .

"By continuing, you agree that you own the music associated with the account and give us permission to host it."

So, this services simply downloads the files and then add on your server? How is this helping me back it up?

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Post by ipsum2 »

Raphmedia wrote: post #82
ipsum2 wrote: post #29

Shameless plug: if you or your friends have important data on SoundCloud, check out my free service to back it up: https://scupper.io .

"By continuing, you agree that you own the music associated with the account and give us permission to host it." So, this services simply downloads the files and then add on your server? How is this helping me back it up?

You can download the files from the server. I'll make it more visible.

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Post by mikestew »

reillyse wrote: post #2

What a messed up article. I don't know this CEO but using a picture taken at a festival two years ago as proof of incompetence seems very cheap.

Not only am I not surprised that the CEO of a music-based company is at Burning Man, I fully expect him to show up at SXSW as well. Anything less would almost seem like a dereliction of duty.

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Post by jgh »

quuquuquu wrote: post #59
jgh wrote: post #13

i really like soundcloud for drum and bass mixes that would otherwise be pretty difficult / impossible to find otherwise. I will miss it if it goes under :(

devil's advocate, why not youtube, or reddit, and if downloading is a problem, mega?

well youtube has a video associated with it, i usually plug my phone into the car and listen there. Plus the youtube "mixes" thing isn't remotely the same thing as a good set from a real dj.

The dnb subreddit focuses mainly on new releases of individual tracks and discussion about artists, not so much for people to post mixes.

I dunno, soundcloud was just better. I could sit in the car and search for an artist and find a mix (bootlegged or otherwise) and listen to it within a few seconds and be on my way. Other things are just clunky and requires a lot more planning in advance.

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Post by autotune »

mynewtb wrote: post #77
ipsum2 wrote: post #29

Shameless plug: if you or your friends have important data on SoundCloud, check out my free service to back it up: https://scupper.io .

Or make a true backup by downloading it all with e.g. youtube-dl instead.

Can't help but wonder what the sound quality of a downloaded youtube vid converted to mp3 would be vs a straight up mp3 or FLAC.

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Post by jgh »

bad_user wrote: post #30
nxsynonym wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go back to basics. Keep it focused on community facing artists, remixes, dj sets, etc. From what I've seen they suffered most from lack of direction, weak leadership, and no real business plan from the beginning. It seems (correct me if I'm wrong) it started as a hobby project and got twisted into a SaaS model that didn't fit it's purpose or audience. As far as monetization - why not have a Patreon-esque system of su…

> why not have a Patreon-esque system You've lost me there. You can't, because people don't pay and don't want to pay, unless they are forced to, as in there's actual scarcity (i.e. no way to easily get that content from anywhere else).

People will pay for indie music, it's been happening for a long time. It still happens today. Particularly if, as we've been talking about here, it's focused on electronica/hip-hop people will pay so they can perform the track in public. There's a real stigma against playing stolen music like that. Plus you can pay for higher quality versions. Lower quality versions don't sound as good when timestretched so they dont work as well for mixing.

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Post by minikomi »

pmoriarty wrote: post #64
sarreph wrote: post #6

For all those looking to make a SoundCloud clone: What is HN's opinion on its failings (from a user perspective) — i.e. how would you make SoundCloud better right now? Also interested to hear those who can balance with commercial viability.

They need to find a much better way to let their listeners discover new music. SoundCloud groups used to be an alright way to do that, and when SC ditched them they really crippled themselves, and now I as a small, independent music producer don't even bother to upload my music to SC because it gets zero listens since there's virtually no way for anyone who might appreciate it to discover it. Back when SC had groups,…

Very much this. Some simple search tools would go a long way - multiple tags, sort by upload date, "not including" negative search, filter by like/download count, downloadable only etc

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Post by Raphmedia »

ipsum2 wrote: post #83
Raphmedia wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"By continuing, you agree that you own the music associated with the account and give us permission to host it." So, this services simply downloads the files and then add on your server? How is this helping me back it up?

You can download the files from the server. I'll make it more visible.

Alright. I noticed that it was pretty easy to find the .mp3 files using the inspector but I didn't know if it was a feature or not.

Re: SoundCloud faces do-or-die vote by investors

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Post by tjr »

sarreph wrote: post #6

For all those looking to make a SoundCloud clone: What is HN's opinion on its failings (from a user perspective) — i.e. how would you make SoundCloud better right now? Also interested to hear those who can balance with commercial viability.

Speaking as a music creator, I like using Soundcloud (for example) to share a new mix with colleagues / clients, who can easily comment at specific times on the recording. Or to share A/B comparisons between different settings. And all of this can be on private URLs shared with only the intended parties.

I don't use it to find new music to "just" listen to, and I never have. But I would happily pay to use it for what I do get out of it. I haven't paid for it yet, because their free tier has so far covered everything I needed...

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