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Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by ohthehugemanate »

Dirlewanger wrote: post #66

I wish they'd stop focusing on the flavor-of-the-week technology gimmick bullshit and focus on making Firefox the better performing browser. Chrome outperforms it in nearly every way by margins that grow with every release. My reasons for sticking with FF grow fewer every day.

Try developer edition or beta to get a taste of the work they've put into speed. I ditched chrome for FF and haven't looked back because even a year ago, developer edition was so much faster... Especially on heavy tab loads.

Iirc the speed changes can't start landing in stable until November, because of the shift to Webextensions.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by joelrunyon »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #59
joelrunyon wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weirdly enough - I found gmail was running VERY slow on Chrome. I switched to the Brave browser and it's been blazing fast. Weird that Google products don't even seem to run the best on their own products.

Do you like Brave? I've not done too much research on alternate browsers, but at this point as long as I trust the company I'd be willing to try it. Cliqz is another one I thought about trying, but it is based on Firefox so I'm a bit dismayed haha.

I do!

It has some issues with sites because of cookie storage + I believe it disables scripts - but it's really fast :)

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by sirfz »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #2

I just wish it was .. faster. Lately I've been moving away from Google everywhere I can. I moved everything but Google Voice. Yes, even Google Search - I've moved to DuckDuckGo. On windows however, I had to fall back to Chrome, because I was just shocked at how slow Firefox was. Opening pages like Twitch.tv proved to be shockingly slow. Furthermore, my habit of opening many tabs in the background like I do in Chrome/…

What does "faster" mean? honest question. I've been using Firefox since its early days and never jumped on the Chrome bandwagon simply because I didn't see the need to do so. When Firefox felt slow, it usually was the whole operating system that's slow and neither Chrome or any other browser could solve that. Nowadays, all the machines I use are powerful enough to not feel any such slowness and I just don't understand what is this "speed" people keep attributing to Chrome and what is so "slow" in Firefox (regardless of that fact they're working on speeding it up).

In addition, Chrome recently crashed on me multiple times while using Google Spreadsheet which is supposed to work better with Chrome than other browsers.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by woranl »

Mozilla should focus on building the browser instead of building app that competes with other developers. They need to start listening to the developers community and stop being arrogant and ignorant. You build the foundation, and developers build the app.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by lukealization »

Dirlewanger wrote: post #66

I wish they'd stop focusing on the flavor-of-the-week technology gimmick bullshit and focus on making Firefox the better performing browser. Chrome outperforms it in nearly every way by margins that grow with every release. My reasons for sticking with FF grow fewer every day.

Agreed. This plus a number of plugins disappearing in FF57 with the new WebExtensions have forced me to switch to Safari.

On the plus side now, I get my tabs across all my devices.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by mouldysammich »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #2

I just wish it was .. faster. Lately I've been moving away from Google everywhere I can. I moved everything but Google Voice. Yes, even Google Search - I've moved to DuckDuckGo. On windows however, I had to fall back to Chrome, because I was just shocked at how slow Firefox was. Opening pages like Twitch.tv proved to be shockingly slow. Furthermore, my habit of opening many tabs in the background like I do in Chrome/…

~as an asside

Its not a real solution, but for twitch, which i agree is essentially unusable, ive replaced it with streamlink + mpv + a couple of scripts to notify me of who i follow is live. Twitch chat works in irc too.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by StavrosK »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #2

I just wish it was .. faster. Lately I've been moving away from Google everywhere I can. I moved everything but Google Voice. Yes, even Google Search - I've moved to DuckDuckGo. On windows however, I had to fall back to Chrome, because I was just shocked at how slow Firefox was. Opening pages like Twitch.tv proved to be shockingly slow. Furthermore, my habit of opening many tabs in the background like I do in Chrome/…

Try disabling HTTPS Everywhere, if you have it. It made everything many seconds slower for me.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by jacquesm »

Browsers should be browsers, not a way to get a whole bunch of trojan horse software installed on your machine.

If I wanted voice search, file sharing and/or note taking I would find the appropriate piece of software for that task and install it separately.

All this does is increasing the attack surface of the browser in a ridiculous manner providing features that only very few will use. File-sharing? What could possibly go wrong?

And in the meantime Thunderbird, a stand-alone program that had a decent following got the axe in favor of more browser bloat.

I really no longer understand Mozilla's mission.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by znpy »

toyg wrote: post #67
znpy wrote: post #62

Mozilla is doing everything but what is supposed to do:make Firefox blazing fast.

They actually did, the recent switch to multiprocessing made a massive difference. I've been happily using Vivaldi for a few months now, but I'm tempted to go back to FF as the speed gap has been wiped out of late - only cold startups are a bit slower, actual pageload is absolutely on par or better. This on Mac, at least, but I expect it will have been similar on other platforms.

Last time I tried it still was slow... I'll give it another try.

Re: Mozilla launches voice search, file-sharing and note-taking tools for Firefox

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Post by _frog »

jacquesm wrote: post #88

Browsers should be browsers, not a way to get a whole bunch of trojan horse software installed on your machine. If I wanted voice search, file sharing and/or note taking I would find the appropriate piece of software for that task and install it separately. All this does is increasing the attack surface of the browser in a ridiculous manner providing features that only very few will use. File-sharing? What could poss…

> If I wanted voice search, file sharing and/or note taking I would find the appropriate piece of software for that task and install it separately.

The good thing is that these are all separate browser extensions, none of which are bundled by default. So that's exactly the case.

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