So is this complementary to the linux subsystem in windows, or a completely unrelated option?
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Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta
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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta
#82finally I can remove the win32 specific code from all the open source software I maintain not sure that was what Microsoft was going for though...
For software intended for regular users, POSIX via WSL isn't a replacement to the Windows API.
In addition to the feature needing to be manually installed, developer-mode must be enabled. WSL leaving beta does not appear to change that.
If the feature was installed by default, and an X server was bundled, it would risk the Windows platform. WSL allows developers to be placated without affecting the business side of the platform.
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta
#83finally I can remove the win32 specific code from all the open source software I maintain not sure that was what Microsoft was going for though...
My theory of what they are going for is to migrate server devs from Macbooks running BSD Terminal.app to cheaper Windows laptops running WSL terminals. Once you have migrated away from Mac, getting your server code to run on Windows natively becomes a lot easier and more attractive.
The question of why you would want to run your server code on Windows (aside from supporting legacy .NET apps) remains. Those same sysadmins can overwrite Windows with a BSD or Linux on those cheap laptops.
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta
#84I hope my Macbook days would be over soon. After using Macbook Pro many years, I find good Windows machines are as reliable as Mac's ones. Apple products are usually overpriced, much less options for hardware accessories and upgrades, very expensive to fix. I have to keep running both Mac & Windows machines which is very inconvenient sometimes.
Which laptop manufactures have you found to be as reliable and well put together as macbooks? I haven't had too much luck with dells or lenovos.
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta
#85finally I can remove the win32 specific code from all the open source software I maintain not sure that was what Microsoft was going for though...
Unless you're going to force your users to install WSL up front(which is a pretty poor first contact) I think you might be better served by keeping it around.
You are misunderstanding the point of WSL. It's not about writing software with Linux that users will run with Windows. Rather, it's about writing software on Windows that users will run on Linux.
The target demographic is developers of Linux server software. A lot of those devs today run macOS
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta
#86I hope my Macbook days would be over soon. After using Macbook Pro many years, I find good Windows machines are as reliable as Mac's ones. Apple products are usually overpriced, much less options for hardware accessories and upgrades, very expensive to fix. I have to keep running both Mac & Windows machines which is very inconvenient sometimes.
Which laptop manufactures have you found to be as reliable and well put together as macbooks? I haven't had too much luck with dells or lenovos.
Surface Book and Surface Laptop are quite good.
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta
#87I really hope they make WSL's /home/. symlink to /mnt/c/users/. by default. What's the point of having a separate filesystem and home directory? I want native POSIX in Windows. The WSL implementation feels like... not that.
The linux filesystem has to be segregated from the windows filesystem. If I remember correctly, the linux FS can read from windows FS, but not write to it, due to locking issues. Or something like that. Whatever it was, it made me discount it as a way to write windows code. Instead, I'm using Git Bash, which is based on mingw
You can definitely write to the windows file system from WSL, so long as you don't need admin privileges to do it. I use it at work and 99% of the files I edit are in a windows controlled drive.
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta
#88I hope my Macbook days would be over soon. After using Macbook Pro many years, I find good Windows machines are as reliable as Mac's ones. Apple products are usually overpriced, much less options for hardware accessories and upgrades, very expensive to fix. I have to keep running both Mac & Windows machines which is very inconvenient sometimes.
What happened?
Did apple simultaneously fire all of it's hardware team along with it's QA dept? (we know the 2nd one happened).
I love apple, but it feels like they have a CEO who's running it in "latter years" mode. Zero risk, minimize cost everywhere, maximize profit even if it results in absurd cash piles...
This is what you get when bean counters run tech companies.
Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta
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#90Only $300 a license.