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Re: Tesla Autopilot

#81
post #43

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I'm curious where you get the number "38 petaflops" from.

In the same sense that your dog solves differential equations when he catches a Frisbee, I suppose.

It's memory + control driven with visual feedback, not much more. You don't have to solve anything if you already sorta know the solution, and can adjust it for the goal.

Re: Tesla Autopilot

#82

Tesla sent out an email today. Autopilot Updates We just released the latest version of Autopilot. You can now experience Enhanced Autopilot features including Traffic-Aware Cruise Control, Autosteer, Auto Lane Change, Parallel + Perpendicular Autopark, and Summon. Automatic Emergency Braking, Forward + Side Collision Warning, and more advanced safety features are also active and standard. All Tesla vehicles have the…

I don't really believe that the hardware is enough for what they are trying to achieve. There is almost no redundancy e.g. on sensor level except for the front radar supporting the front cameras and ultrasound for close distances, however if one of those rear-facing cameras fails due to a defect or dirt on the lens the vehicle would have to stop because it wouldn't be able to detect oncoming cars. I am also not sure about the processing power, handling video streams and doing deep learning for up to eight cameras in real time seems a little too much for a current gpu?

Re: Tesla Autopilot

#83
I sure hope it works, for the sake (and lives) of people who own them. And for the people who have to drive alongside them (everyone).

Re: Tesla Autopilot

#84
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"All Tesla vehicles produced in our factory, including Model 3, have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver." That claim is strong and false. What about Roadster and the old Model S with the old AP1 hardware?

What factory were they produced at?

Fremont is where Tesla builds all vehicles currently.

Re: Tesla Autopilot

#85
post #60

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"All Tesla vehicles have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver." In the Model S configuration page, "enhanced autopilot" and "full self-driving capability" are still optional extras that together cost $8,000, so I'm not sure what they're talking about here. https://www.tesla.com/models/design

My understanding is that all new Tesla vehicles have all the necessary hardware, and the features are software-locked behind that $8,000 fee. Apparently, these features can also be unlocked at a future time, for a higher fee of $10,000.

Just new? My understanding is that all applies to every single Model S ever produced.

Re: Tesla Autopilot

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Tesla sent out an email today. Autopilot Updates We just released the latest version of Autopilot. You can now experience Enhanced Autopilot features including Traffic-Aware Cruise Control, Autosteer, Auto Lane Change, Parallel + Perpendicular Autopark, and Summon. Automatic Emergency Braking, Forward + Side Collision Warning, and more advanced safety features are also active and standard. All Tesla vehicles have the…

> You can now experience Enhanced Autopilot features including Traffic-Aware Cruise Control, Autosteer, Auto Lane Change, Parallel + Perpendicular Autopark, and Summon Scary stuff, really. No consumer wants (or needs) autopilot "features" - at least not from a marketing standpoint. If you ask me, the car either drives itself or you are driving it. It's a bit ridiculous to expect people to use these things safely. If…

In my experience, having driven or been driven by the autopilot v1 hardware and software for thousands of kilometers, it is not ridiculous to use this safely. You configure how you use it once, you don't have to remember the state of every feature.

There are moments when you have to think about what state the car is in. But in opinion it is by far offset by how much less tiring it is to drive a long way.

Re: Tesla Autopilot

#87

Tesla sent out an email today. Autopilot Updates We just released the latest version of Autopilot. You can now experience Enhanced Autopilot features including Traffic-Aware Cruise Control, Autosteer, Auto Lane Change, Parallel + Perpendicular Autopark, and Summon. Automatic Emergency Braking, Forward + Side Collision Warning, and more advanced safety features are also active and standard. All Tesla vehicles have the…

> You can now experience Enhanced Autopilot features including Traffic-Aware Cruise Control, Autosteer, Auto Lane Change, Parallel + Perpendicular Autopark, and Summon Scary stuff, really. No consumer wants (or needs) autopilot "features" - at least not from a marketing standpoint. If you ask me, the car either drives itself or you are driving it. It's a bit ridiculous to expect people to use these things safely. If…

this is probably one of the most ignorant and short sighted comments i've ever read on HN and reaks of competitive shilling.

It's like saying we shouldn't have released seatbelts because people moght not have used them. Or maybe we shouldn't have released vaccines because you still need booster shots.

Safety features, even incremental ones, make the world safer for everyone.

Re: Tesla Autopilot

#88
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe the claim is that all of their vehicles include the hardware required for these planned future features. They call attention to regulatory challenges, but gloss over the fact that many of these items aren't ready yet from a software perspective.

I think this is old, or at least deceptive advertisement. There are two packages for the model S which add up to $9k extra[0]: Enhanced Autopilot Full Self-Driving Capability The fact those are add-ons and their descriptions seems at odds with the statements made on the page. 0: https://www.tesla.com/models/design

The add-ons are software unlocks. The old 60D models actually had a 75KwH battery pack, but were software-limited to 60KwH unless you paid for an upgrade.

Re: Tesla Autopilot

#89

Tesla sent out an email today. Autopilot Updates We just released the latest version of Autopilot. You can now experience Enhanced Autopilot features including Traffic-Aware Cruise Control, Autosteer, Auto Lane Change, Parallel + Perpendicular Autopark, and Summon. Automatic Emergency Braking, Forward + Side Collision Warning, and more advanced safety features are also active and standard. All Tesla vehicles have the…

> You can now experience Enhanced Autopilot features including Traffic-Aware Cruise Control, Autosteer, Auto Lane Change, Parallel + Perpendicular Autopark, and Summon Scary stuff, really. No consumer wants (or needs) autopilot "features" - at least not from a marketing standpoint. If you ask me, the car either drives itself or you are driving it. It's a bit ridiculous to expect people to use these things safely. If…

well, it yells at you if you let go of the steering wheel and will even disable itself if you keep doing it. It's not that scary. And the features are real. At least it gives owners the confidence that things are moving forward and if they buy a Tesla today they will have full self driving some day.

Re: Tesla Autopilot

#90
post #50

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You don't need 38 petaflops to drive a car. We are wasting our minds driving. Driving doesn't need creativity, it needs the 360 degrees of awareness without any lapse in concentration and the ability to react in milliseconds.

I would peg the human brain at closer to 1 flop. That's about how many floating point operations I can do in a second, and only very simple ones.

You do more than that when calculating the trajectory of a ball thrown that you have to catch. Just not with numbers.
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