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Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

nrki wrote: post #44
chrismorgan wrote: post #31

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From what I’ve seen, USB-C is a disaster . The ports and cables all have to support specific profiles, which are just getting more and more complicated, for specific features to work, and there is no visual indication at all of this. If you got a cheap cable (which people will do), you may suddenly find that maybe charging doesn’t work. Or maybe it melts. Or maybe it doesn’t transfer data. Or maybe using it for a vid…

Sure...except you have to buy a $200 dock to connect it to anything. Why can't I buy a $40 (or Chinese equivalent for $20) adapter to connect it to things? Why isn't there a pin-out or open standard? I know the magnetic factor would be a problem for this use-case - it would often be too "heavy" for the magnets.

I got my dock for about $70. Presumably if you shop around a bit, you can manage to do something similar. I haven't seen a full dock, but I have seen off-brand SurfaceConnect chargers.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by Analemma_ »

I'm interested to see if the claims of ~20ms latency on the pen hold up in reviews. That's less than half of the latency of the Apple Pencil and within spitting distance of the 10ms considered to be the holy grail of imperceptibility. I could never get into pen-based input because the latency drove me nuts, but may have to rethink that.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by pdabbadabba »

josefresco wrote: post #60
8draco8 wrote: post #35

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Plus that kickstand always looked so inconvenient to me. On normal laptop I can adjust screen angle however I want. The kickstand also require a bigger surface to put it down properly. On normal laptop I am fine as long as the bottom half can fit on the table (or any flat surface), here there is need for much more space, seems very inconvenient especially when working in tight spaces like server room, car, or small c…

So buy a f*cking laptop! I'm only half-kidding - but criticizing an integral part of a product, when there are multiple alternatives with exact the feature your desire is ... silly.

Well...the product GP is criticizing does bill itself, right up top, as "The most versatile laptop."

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by gambiting »

nilved wrote: post #57
gambiting wrote: post #34

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It absolutely isn't. I'm a C++ programmer working in games industry, my work machine has 64GB and all our work-issued laptops are 32GB(which is not enough to actually start local servers of our game, so doing any mobile work is quite limiting). why does this apply here: because I can easily imagine artists using this to modify some assets and trying to run the game to see what they look like, but with 16GB of ram the…

Your game needs some serious work. Maybe if your developers had 4 GB RAM on their computers the constraint would benefit them.

The main map of the game is almost 30GB on its own and is a result of work of hundreds of people - suggesting that limiting ourselves to 4GB on work machines would be "beneficial" is silly.

But hey, we're always hiring!

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by gambiting »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #64
gambiting wrote: post #34

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It absolutely isn't. I'm a C++ programmer working in games industry, my work machine has 64GB and all our work-issued laptops are 32GB(which is not enough to actually start local servers of our game, so doing any mobile work is quite limiting). why does this apply here: because I can easily imagine artists using this to modify some assets and trying to run the game to see what they look like, but with 16GB of ram the…

What ever happened to using servers for a lot of this?

We do. But if you take an alpha build of the game to E3 or an external presentation you need to run everything locally, and usually beefy alienwares or custom-built laptops are used for this.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by maxxxxx »

nilved wrote: post #57
gambiting wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It absolutely isn't. I'm a C++ programmer working in games industry, my work machine has 64GB and all our work-issued laptops are 32GB(which is not enough to actually start local servers of our game, so doing any mobile work is quite limiting). why does this apply here: because I can easily imagine artists using this to modify some assets and trying to run the game to see what they look like, but with 16GB of ram the…

Your game needs some serious work. Maybe if your developers had 4 GB RAM on their computers the constraint would benefit them.

I am not sure if you are trying to be funny or if you are an arrogant prick.
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