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A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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Post by icelancer »

SXX wrote: post #76
raulk wrote: post #68

The North Korean developers who worked on this must be privileged beings with access to the open Internet. I can't imagine developing such a complex system without documentation and references. Maybe they even hang out in Stack Overflow...

There is good chance it's actually developed by developers seating somewhere in Bay Area working for some VC-funded company with inconspicuous name. After all there is a lot of commercial surveillance software that sold to authoritarian regimes. Of course that doesn't mean someone work directly with NK.

Exactly. This was almost certainly made by a Western country under NDA.

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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Post by sametmax »

thriftwy wrote: post #80

The business would love to lock down their employees' devices (especially handheld and embedded) like this. They should just come with this system to open market, make a company that is worth billions from the start, because every BigCo would love to buy.

It would be illegal in many countries. E.G: france law consider that an employer can't watch private documents even when opened by an employee, during working hours, using the company equipment.

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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Post by quirkafleeg »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #79
ioulian wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't fully understand that this comment is downvoted. He has a point there. We are all being tracked, just see your history [1] on the google website. It tracks the websites you've visited, the video's you've watched, music I've played, things I've searched, App's I've used (Camera for example), directions I've searched (google maps), ads I've seen, cards in my feed (google now), my location history (actually very…

Keep in mind that you're comparing an oppressive regime with... android. The open source phone operating system. And you think this is a sensible comparison?

He's comparing this device's tracking with Google's tracking. Why are you pretending you don't realise that?

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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Post by _pmf_ »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #79
ioulian wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't fully understand that this comment is downvoted. He has a point there. We are all being tracked, just see your history [1] on the google website. It tracks the websites you've visited, the video's you've watched, music I've played, things I've searched, App's I've used (Camera for example), directions I've searched (google maps), ads I've seen, cards in my feed (google now), my location history (actually very…

Keep in mind that you're comparing an oppressive regime with... android. The open source phone operating system. And you think this is a sensible comparison?

We have a company that has liquidity that is measured in multiples of this country's GDP.

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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Post by tokenizerrr »

quirkafleeg wrote: post #84
tokenizerrr wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that you're comparing an oppressive regime with... android. The open source phone operating system. And you think this is a sensible comparison?

He's comparing this device's tracking with Google's tracking. Why are you pretending you don't realise that?

There is a difference between opt in and getting yourself and your immediate family killed in the process of opting out. You can also install custom ROMs, or just use android without the google apps and not worry about any of this. You can do this in like an hour. If you're stuck in North Korea, there is damned little you can do other than get shot for sending a text message about it (if that is even possible). Which is what we should be discussing here.

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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Post by tokenizerrr »

_pmf_ wrote: post #86
tokenizerrr wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that you're comparing an oppressive regime with... android. The open source phone operating system. And you think this is a sensible comparison?

We have a company that has liquidity that is measured in multiples of this country's GDP.

Great, will they have you and your immediate family killed for speaking out?

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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Post by hutzlibu »

icelancer wrote: post #81
SXX wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is good chance it's actually developed by developers seating somewhere in Bay Area working for some VC-funded company with inconspicuous name. After all there is a lot of commercial surveillance software that sold to authoritarian regimes. Of course that doesn't mean someone work directly with NK.

Exactly. This was almost certainly made by a Western country under NDA.

I doubt it. They would be too scared of implemented backdoors. They might outsource some parts, maybe to china or india, but they will likely assembly it in NK - to have full control over it.
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