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Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by JoshTriplett »

TuringNYC wrote: post #80
arikfr wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com

I was initially excited but this was a let-down: >>> The owner of www.todoist.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website. This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that Firefox may only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible to add an exception for this certificate.

Works here. Are you behind a broken proxy?

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by ilamont »

According to Microsoft’s announcement, To-Do starts you off in a screen called “My Day” which offers a list of items that need to get done today.

While Wunderlist allows you to see the "Today" view first it's not forced ... it's flexible enough to let people manage their To-do lists in a number of different ways. I have a bunch of general To-do lists in Wunderlist including open-ended ones and ones that I duplicate every week (marking the old version as done) and slowly modify. The "My Day" default does not work for me.

The other thing that was great about Wunderlist is the developers really paid attention to Mac and iOS users. I found that the Mac version was better than Windows in a few areas - specifically the ability to expand a note to a bigger view and a lack of buggy behavior when modifying a note (confirmed in Windows 10 but not fixed by Wunderlist, now we know why). In the new setup, Mac/iOS/Android will clearly take a back seat to Windows:

As many users realized, some platforms do not yet support To-Do, including Mac, iPad and Android tablet. List sharing is also not available. But Microsoft says these will roll out in time along with other integrations with Microsoft services.

Too bad. Wunderlist was a great service, the only To-Do app I ever liked.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by rmccoy6435 »

blahblah12 wrote: post #76
gtf21 wrote: post #35

Sparrow, Sunrise, Wunderlist... all the good apps just get bought and killed.

It's not really killed. The original Sunrise, Accompli and Wunderlist teams still work at MSFT and they're working on their new apps respectively. Chad works on Wunderlist. Javier still runs outlook. They just absorbed a bunch of other apps too

I presume that's the same Chad Fowler that wrote The Passionate Programmer?

Work has LinkedIn blocked, so I can't confirm easily.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by amix »

arikfr wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com

Thanks for the support arikfr! Being a long time HN user, I am happy to see Todoist recommended.

We are in this for the long haul. We don't even go into acquisitions talks (we already turned down a lot of them), and we don't have an exit strategy. If you are interested in learning more please read our `No Exit philosophy` https://tentimezones.com/why-we-don-t-have-an-exit-strategy-...

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by TorKlingberg »

arikfr wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com

I know they are doing what HN commenters tell everyone to do and charge more, but I am just not comfortable paying £22/year for a todo list (£28 through Apple). I'm not really a todo list enthusiast, so I don't want 90% of the features features, just basic stuff like "show all tasks except those scheduled far in the future".

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by jamesisaac »

Maybe what some people are looking for in a replacement, this is something I put together:

https://nachapp.com

It isn't multi-user, but does introduce features around tying tasks to larger goals, progress tracking etc. It's also currently just a web app, but at the moment I'm working on native iOS/Android apps.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by blahblah12 »

rmccoy6435 wrote: post #83
blahblah12 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not really killed. The original Sunrise, Accompli and Wunderlist teams still work at MSFT and they're working on their new apps respectively. Chad works on Wunderlist. Javier still runs outlook. They just absorbed a bunch of other apps too

I presume that's the same Chad Fowler that wrote The Passionate Programmer? Work has LinkedIn blocked, so I can't confirm easily.

Yep, same one.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by xaedes »

sametmax wrote: post #15
cafebabbe wrote: post #9

Okay i've been fucked by several todos apps now, I think i'll switch to emacs and self-hosting...

The thing is, for something critical, you should not use a software that doesn't have: - an open source self hostable implementation, even if they offer a paid instance to ease your life. - an open format in which you can get your todos entries - an offline client that will still work even if the online instance closes

Sounds like Bullet Journal. Will still work in a hundred years. Heck even the offline client could work thousands of years if properly stored^^

Started to use it because of some HN comment suggested it and I am so happy to started this. The only todo system that really stuck with me over time.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by blahblah12 »

It's not really killed. The original Sunrise, Accompli and Wunderlist teams still work at MSFT and they're working on their new apps respectively (Javier runs all of Outlook now). And Chad Fowler (former CTO of Wunderlist), and company are behind the pivot to To-Do. It's the exact same application. I've been beta testing it and it just has few additional features that will show up over time. It's really just a rebrand and a skin and a new backend they're trying to rapidly improve.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/fowlerchad/ - CTO Wunderlist https://www.linkedin.com/in/jsoltero/ - Accompli founder https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianreber/ - Wunderlist Founder https://www.linkedin.com/in/pierrevalade/ - founder Sunrise https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremylv/ - founder Sunrise/Design

They all got promoted really quickly and have large portfolios (including their original apps and teams) , but now with a mandate to fix the other similar core applications, too. If anything, this crop of teams and ppl now run huge portions of Office -- not the other way around. And they're the ones deciding strategic vision.

These acquisitions were also acquihires. The CEOs/CTOs have high leadership positions now (they went from Partner GEMs -> CTO/CVPs in about a year or so) and are trying to make all of Office better.

I think every time a MSFT article comes up, ppl get in an uproar. Give the company a chance and check your bias at the door.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by arikfr »

amix wrote: post #84
arikfr wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com

Thanks for the support arikfr! Being a long time HN user, I am happy to see Todoist recommended. We are in this for the long haul. We don't even go into acquisitions talks (we already turned down a lot of them), and we don't have an exit strategy. If you are interested in learning more please read our `No Exit philosophy` https://tentimezones.com/why-we-don-t-have-an-exit-strategy-...

As someone who is also building a company [1], I found this post (and the others on your blog around the topic) truly inspiring.

Actually it was a big part of why I decided to use Todoist and become a paid user. I was using it on and off for a long time (been a paid user in 2010!) but seeing how you run things, made me stay this time.

[1] https://redash.io

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