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Removing Home Internet Is the Most Productive Thing I've Done

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Re: Removing Home Internet Is the Most Productive Thing I've Done

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Oh man, oh man, this is so close to my experience. I went lo-fi since the beginning of 2017. Real testimonials of a drug/facebook/internet addict who has the problem out of control here. I killed my Facebook account 3 months ago, and switched to a dumb phone (from a Pixel phone ;-) since the beginning of the year. Now I'm rocking a webOS phone and no IM account except for hangouts which I check on my computer when I…

I never reach into my pocket to check for messages. That is what my LG G Watch R is for, it gives me the information quickly and easily.

Re: Removing Home Internet Is the Most Productive Thing I've Done

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post #20

Oh man, oh man, this is so close to my experience. I went lo-fi since the beginning of 2017. Real testimonials of a drug/facebook/internet addict who has the problem out of control here. I killed my Facebook account 3 months ago, and switched to a dumb phone (from a Pixel phone ;-) since the beginning of the year. Now I'm rocking a webOS phone and no IM account except for hangouts which I check on my computer when I…

And yet here you are on a tech site posting this?

How can you stay in tech and make products that are relevant to the market and be such a tech Luddite? It is like RMS or all those people on slashdot who boo everything new. Nobody who is anybody doing anything interesting listens to windbags who don't understand the current market. The world is going to move past you, leaving you and your skills increasingly irrelevant.

I don't understand how people who work in an industry that changes so fast can be such luddites...

I mean yes I get it... blah blah blah Facebook is making us all go to hell in a hand basket and back when I was a kid we all played in the freeway instead of used our smartphones or whatever but seriously. Change is constant. Fight it and become obsolete.

Re: Removing Home Internet Is the Most Productive Thing I've Done

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this blog post is entirely too idealistic about the benefits of turning off the Internet, but I don't think comparing excessive Internet use and Alcoholism is appropriate. Having personally been on the fringe of "high functioning" alcoholism on a few occasions, I don't think the comparison works. Alcoholism is inherently negative. Drinking alcohol in moderation may not be extremely harmful, but is still not n…

I have to disagree that internet addiction is not something without highly negative social connotations. There is a significant number of people who fall into poor social circumstances via too much exposure to internet. There are a lot of internet communities out there that amplify deviant and antisocial behavior in people who spend way too much time on the internet. I agree that it's a different beast than a substan…

That's fair, and to be clear I'm not entirely dismissing the issues related to binge Internet use. I do think this can be a very real problem that has very real consequences. I'm mostly unable to accept the alcohol comparison.

Re: Removing Home Internet Is the Most Productive Thing I've Done

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Some people are alcoholics. They can't exist near an open can of beer without their life going to shambles. But most people aren't and don't have the urge to binge drink. I'm not sure how this is any different. The author of this article is an Internetaholic, therefore I should cut my tether to the Internet? And what of my LTE connection?

I see it a lot particularly with regard to facebook. People take "I have a problem" and turn it in to "this thing is a problem".

But Facebook is a problem. Social media has its place somewhere in society but Facebook in particular is definitely a problem, for a multitude of reasons.

Re: Removing Home Internet Is the Most Productive Thing I've Done

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I haven't dealt with my laptop based computer addiction, but I have solved my cell phone addiction. It's important to understand how much behavior around technology is based on ingrained habits. My goal with dealing with my phone was to "short-circuit" the habitual/addictive behavior. To do this, I did two things. 1. I turned off all automatic notifications on my phone, as well as all background updates of apps/email…

For me, the solutions are bookmarks. I keep a folder "Daily". Several times a day, I open all bookmarks inside that folder and go through the opened tabs one by one. Moreover, I unsubscribed from any kind of impersonal email.

Re: Removing Home Internet Is the Most Productive Thing I've Done

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What the author suggests is highly impractical, and makes adopting this way of life all the more challenging. I suggest for people who have a serious problem, to try out time-managers and site-blockers. When I was going through a highly unproductive phase, I used ColdTurkey. The software's not too good and if you're really craving for a fix, you'll find a way to get past it. But, for the regular procrastinator it doe…

I think the view that the internet is "one of the most important utilities there is" is seriously influenced by what most of us do for a living. The fact is that it's mostly used for idle, time-killing entertainment and gossip. I've been so tempted to cut my home service but like others have mentioned it would be a really hard sell to the rest of the family.

Re: Removing Home Internet Is the Most Productive Thing I've Done

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post #86
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see it a lot particularly with regard to facebook. People take "I have a problem" and turn it in to "this thing is a problem".

But Facebook is a problem. Social media has its place somewhere in society but Facebook in particular is definitely a problem, for a multitude of reasons.

Care to list some?

Re: Removing Home Internet Is the Most Productive Thing I've Done

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May I suggest that the problem is one of quality much more so than of quantity, and that a solution that takes a more fine-grained approach than just shutting off your ISP altogether can give you the best of both worlds?

"How Technology is Hijacking Your Mind — from a Magician and Google Design Ethicist"

https://journal.thriveglobal.com/how-technology-hijacks-peop...

Once you see how subtly dark patterns borrowed from advertising and casinos tap deeply into your subconscious impulses without your knowledge, you will likely jettison any cavalier conception of things like Facebook, smartphone notifications, etc., and begin to treat them like the subversive, profit driven intrusions that they are.

Let's as well not forget that just about 100% of the web used to look like it would today if you disabled all Javascript and CSS. The change is not a coincidence, and it's important to recognize who benefits from the intrusive web, and what we lose when our scenic view of the historic part of town has been blocked by the new casino development.

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