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Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence

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GNOME has been doing some really cool stuff as of late ( http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/top-features-in-gnome-3-2... ). I'm still using Cinnamon, because I still like the look a bit more, but it's getting harder to ignore all of the excellent features GNOME provides, including: - Drive support for file manager - Gmail/Outlook support for GNOME accounts and built-in calendars - Working Wayland implementation I'm h…

If you can shell script you might be able to build that extension your self:

https://github.com/p-e-w/argos

Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence

#83

I get that they're moving away from convergence, but what does this ultimately mean for Ubuntu as a mobile OS? In the grand scheme of things, what does this mean for users who want a completely FOSS stack for their phone (let's ignore the baseband for now)? As far as I can tell, this just means that your only options are Android or iOS. It's not easy to get a Jolla/SailfishOS phone that will work on most Canadian or…

I'd suggest the best remaining option for a FOSS-driven phone (now that Canonical have dropped the ball) is Tizen. It's got the backing of a large phone manufacturer (Samsung) and the Linux Foundation, and seems to be actively developed. It'll probably end up being used on low-end devices at first, but is likely to be more open than the two leading platforms, so hopefully they get some traction amongst tech community…

Last two weeks I've estimating Tizen, Ubuntu or Sailfish worth port an app. Like sample apps, build scripts debugging, etc. Although Tizen has large corp support, Ubuntu and Sailfish look more developer friendly. CMake, QT , C++.

Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snap is explicitly mentioned as one of the things they want to focus more on.

Do they never learn?

What's wrong with Snaps? I'd say it's a good approach in many cases.

Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence

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post #52

Canonical ”raised" like 20 million USD to create a converged phone but the "community/market didn't want it"?

That was $12 million, and that was in 2013, and if I understand correctly how indiegogo works, they didn't get to claim any of that money because they didn't reach their goal of $30 million

Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence

#87

> We will shift our default Ubuntu desktop back to GNOME for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS This is huge and was my #1 request for the previous post for Ubuntu 17.10. Gnome on Fedora is amazing and I have had people walk up to me and ask me - what OS am I running ? It is so much better for Ubuntu and Redhat to have joint stewardship of Gnome going forward rather than split energy on wasted competition. My next biggest request is f…

Flatpak seems more limited in scope as documents say:

> Can Flatpak be used on servers too? Flatpak is designed to run inside a desktop session and relies on certain session services, such as a dbus session bus and a systemd --user instance. This makes Flatpak not a good match for a server.

Whereas Snap documents say:

Package any app for every Linux desktop, server, cloud or device, and deliver updates directly.

Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence

#88

I get that they're moving away from convergence, but what does this ultimately mean for Ubuntu as a mobile OS? In the grand scheme of things, what does this mean for users who want a completely FOSS stack for their phone (let's ignore the baseband for now)? As far as I can tell, this just means that your only options are Android or iOS. It's not easy to get a Jolla/SailfishOS phone that will work on most Canadian or…

What I don't understand is Shuttleworth basically said "the market has spoken, and does not want an Ubuntu phone." But I checked their website a few times a year to see if I could buy an Ubuntu phone and always saw a message about "Coming soon" or "sold out". How was the market supposed to get their hands on Ubuntu phone?

Re: Growing Ubuntu for Cloud and IoT, Rather Than Phone and Convergence

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd suggest the best remaining option for a FOSS-driven phone (now that Canonical have dropped the ball) is Tizen. It's got the backing of a large phone manufacturer (Samsung) and the Linux Foundation, and seems to be actively developed. It'll probably end up being used on low-end devices at first, but is likely to be more open than the two leading platforms, so hopefully they get some traction amongst tech community…

Last two weeks I've estimating Tizen, Ubuntu or Sailfish worth port an app. Like sample apps, build scripts debugging, etc. Although Tizen has large corp support, Ubuntu and Sailfish look more developer friendly. CMake, QT , C++.

Perhaps you overlooked this?

https://www.tizen.org/blogs/dh0922/2016/tizen-.net-developer...

https://www.tizen.org/blogs/myungjae/2017/samsung%E2%80%99s-...

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