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Dropbox Secures $600M Credit Line Ahead of Expected IPO

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Re: Dropbox Secures $600M Credit Line Ahead of Expected IPO

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Still surprised Dropbox doesn't apply their UI/UX talent to taking S3 to the cleaners.

Doesn't Dropbox run on S3? Or is that the company that recently moved off AWS into their own datacenters? If so that was a good case study. (I'm an all 5 certified AWS guy and while I love it, I like seeing the counterexamples to keep my Kool-Aid ingestion in check).

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I'm failing to see their competitive advantage. Is it the file history? Linux client? Genuinely asking, I pay 7 € / mo for OneDrive (1 TB) and I get a desktop license of Office along with that too.

They were the first big player, they have a lot of brand recognition, and network effects help also.

That being said, it would be interesting to see what marketshare the various players have. I bet Dropbox is 50% or less.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost profitable is not profitable.

They're free cash-flow positive. Consider that Amazon is also mostly not profitable but has staggering amounts of positive free cash flow.

> They're free cash-flow positive.

Do you know that for a fact?

Re: Dropbox Secures $600M Credit Line Ahead of Expected IPO

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Lots of negativity in here, but I'll say I really enjoy how incredibly simple Dropbox is and has remained since it launched. It's so easy to explain how it works to my non-techie parents ("It's just another folder on your computer, except it backs up your data automatically"). I hope Dropbox continues to thrive.

It does work. Most of the time, for most people. But, at least on Windows, only being able to sync 1 folder is a serious limitation. Again at least on Windows, CPU and disk utilisation goes through the roofnon start-up, rendering your machine all but useless for half an hour. And the final nail in my Dropbox coffin - it seemed to quite often choose the wrong file when there were conflicts, and at times it mistakenly…

What have you switched to?

Every other sync service I've tried has major bugs, from Google Drive URL-encoding the filenames in an entire directory tree and deleting the original to Bittorrent Sync silently corrupting large files...

Re: Dropbox Secures $600M Credit Line Ahead of Expected IPO

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Lots of negativity in here, but I'll say I really enjoy how incredibly simple Dropbox is and has remained since it launched. It's so easy to explain how it works to my non-techie parents ("It's just another folder on your computer, except it backs up your data automatically"). I hope Dropbox continues to thrive.

It does work. Most of the time, for most people. But, at least on Windows, only being able to sync 1 folder is a serious limitation. Again at least on Windows, CPU and disk utilisation goes through the roofnon start-up, rendering your machine all but useless for half an hour. And the final nail in my Dropbox coffin - it seemed to quite often choose the wrong file when there were conflicts, and at times it mistakenly…

You can use symlinks (mklink on Windows) to overcome the "one folder limitation". Not perfect, but helps in some cases.

Re: Dropbox Secures $600M Credit Line Ahead of Expected IPO

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AFAICT only if you buy 3 licenses minimum.

That's a bummer. I have a sizeable chunk of raw image files I'd love to back up somewhere without having to have it on my machine, Dropbox would be a good fit if it wasn't for the 1TB limit on individuals. Ended up uploading directly to S3 and archiving to Glacier.

Amazon Prime Photos allows unlimited photo storage (RAW included) with any $100/yr subscription to Amazon Prime. If you're already paying this for the other benefits, then it is free.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main problem is that, if they wanted to, it shouldn't take Apple/Microsoft/Google/Amazon too much work to put out a comparable product and offer it for free. As an anecdote, my girlfriend already cancelled her Dropbox account because iCloud provides what she needs at a much cheaper cost. Personally, I require Unix support and also use a large portion of the terabyte of space, but I'd bet that the majority of user…

Nobody can seem to do it very well, despite all of them having one. Every major provider has some sort of cloud drive product, but all of them, save for Dropbox, have some annoying limitation. Apple iCloud Drive: Unusable out of MacOS. Amazon: Unclear storage limits with potentially catastrophic consequences for going over them. No free tier. No Linux client. Microsoft OneDrive: Individual file size limits. No Linux…

Also, Dropbox is the only one that offers delta-sync which is a godsend when editing multi-gigabyte PSDs/Media Files. Other providers would simply not work for this use-case with my 100KB/s upload speed. Seems very wasteful as well, uploading every file from scratch for every edit.. kinda curious how users on these providers deal with it?

Re: Dropbox Secures $600M Credit Line Ahead of Expected IPO

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One concern about Dropbox I have is its inability to establish itself beyond its File Storage / Syncing software. Salesforce.com, in comparison, has been acquiring companies left and right. Notable acquisitions of Dropbox, like Mailbox, have either shut down, or are nowhere on the impact map. As Dropbox user (albeit a free one), I don't find it useful for anything beyond synced storage (if there is any new addition i…

I was a big fan of dropbox until I bought a Chromebook and got T's worth of space in Google Drive for free. I don't think I've used my dropbox in a long time. I don't think I know too many people who use them either.

Re: Dropbox Secures $600M Credit Line Ahead of Expected IPO

#90
post #72

Still surprised Dropbox doesn't apply their UI/UX talent to taking S3 to the cleaners.

Doesn't Dropbox run on S3? Or is that the company that recently moved off AWS into their own datacenters? If so that was a good case study. (I'm an all 5 certified AWS guy and while I love it, I like seeing the counterexamples to keep my Kool-Aid ingestion in check).

https://www.wired.com/2016/03/epic-story-dropboxs-exodus-ama... has an interesting story around their custom storage hardware solution.
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