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The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Post by malchow »

mtrpcic wrote: post #64
malchow wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...he posted, on Hacker News, a bastion of knowledge and information.

You're conflating a single anecdotal example with the overall issue. Of course this vote doesn't mean that all websites that are free, open, or focused on knowledge will go away. What it _does_ mean that your ISP can now sell the fact that you post here to Microsoft, who will know that malchow is you (tied to your real name, since the ISP knows that), and now Microsoft can start targeting you in new and exciting ways…

If my argument was impaired, it was certainly less impaired than the parent, who declared that the glorious free and open internet is over (b. 1974, d. 2017) because of this regulatory rollback.

By the way, the fact that you cannot predict Microsoft's "new and exciting" ways of targeting me is a great example of why your argument is unconvincing. Do you really want me to believe that, as long as we kept this rule in place, network providers would never conceive of novel ways to participate in the advertising business using the network-level data they enjoy?

Your best friend, if you are looking for a no-tracking digital lifestyle, is the free market's likelihood of delivering to you just that. It may come at a premium price, which I assume you'll be happy to pay. At the moment, you are just making everyone else pay a premium price for the no-tracking digital lifestyle you prefer, and relying on bureaucrats in D.C. to patch up the rules from time to time to keep up with novel targeting methods.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Post by atomi »

bipvanwinkle wrote: post #79
ComradeTaco wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The votes in both the house and the senate were almost entirely along party lines. Every republican in the senate that voted, voted for this act and every democrat in the senate that voted, voted against this act.

Although this is mostly true, it's not entirely true (at least in the house).

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_...

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Post by cmurf »

cmath wrote: post #6

Does anyone have suggestions on staying private that my mom could easily follow?

Ideally integrated into the device that provides wifi, e.g. openwrt or dd-wrt running openvpn, and then get a monthly vpn service provider - always on at the local router level, for all of her devices.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Post by orthecreedence »

marvindanig wrote: post #4

Before we jump in a shock and talk about the TFW political disaster there is happening in DC at the moment I want to ask a question: Is there a simple guide or steps that I can follow to make myself anonymous? I know there is TOR and VPNs, how can I go about setting it up?

It's still beta, but if you'd like a (more) private Evernote (assuming you even have note-taking as part of your flow), check out Turtl (turtlapp.com).

Disclosure: I built it.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Post by Jach »

lettergram wrote: post #38
marvindanig wrote: post #4

Before we jump in a shock and talk about the TFW political disaster there is happening in DC at the moment I want to ask a question: Is there a simple guide or steps that I can follow to make myself anonymous? I know there is TOR and VPNs, how can I go about setting it up?

I think it's time that we as a community really start putting effort into security. Making tools that people can use is so important, Tor is not really a plug and play system. If Grandma can't do it, then it's not good enough. This is pretty much the only way to ensure any remote privicy (sometimes).

https://github.com/jlund/streisand

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Post by guelo »

afarrell wrote: post #47
doctorshady wrote: post #3

It's a bit disappointing to see that aside from a few abstained votes, everybody just chose to vote along party lines. Do these people just rubber stamp a bill because there's a D or an R next to it? Even if it meant more nay votes for the bill, I really wish we had representatives that vote based on critical thought rather than what their friends were doing. I mean, as long as I'm dreaming too, we should give assemb…

One problem is that legislators need to make decisions on a wide range of domains. This leaves them subject to influence by expert lobbyists and party whips. Critical thought about an issue requires much more time and study than most people have except for their own specialization. I assume you know how to pitch manure, program a computer, and cook a tasty meal. Yet tell me, how long would it take you to butcher a ho…

They're not voting on that many issues. This is their job, they're supposed to study and try to understand the issues.

And really, this isn't that hard of an issue, I could probably ask my gramma "should AT&T be able to sell your browsing history to advertisers" and she would say no.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Post by Jach »

eikenberry wrote: post #15
hprotagonist wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

given the fact that deep packet inspection is real, to what extent will this actually help?

VPNs are encrypted.

Good ones anyway. Many don't. Even https://github.com/jlund/streisand if set up on ec2 won't warn you that your ipv6 connections probably aren't blackholed.

Re: The House just voted to wipe out the FCC’s landmark Internet privacy protections

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Post by antisthenes »

callcallcall wrote: post #26

Please do not complain into the echo chamber of comments here. Please take a moment to support the EFF, call your representatives, and speak to friends and family. EFF: https://www.eff.org/ Find your reps: https://tryvoices.com/

If my rep already voted Nay, what else can I realistically do?
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