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Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Sigh. Why do so many not seem to understand that, in most cases, Netflix is likely not "dropping" anything? Netflix does not own the rights to the content and the owners can decide on the terms of the agreement on how long the content will be on Netflix. People threatening to leave, or actually leaving, lowers Netflix's leverage to try to get and keep the content in their system. This is why Netflix is creating their…

I really don't care how they run their business. Not my problem. What is my problem is: I started watching X-Files for the first time (yeah, never go around to it for the initial airing). Started watching in late February. And starting March 1st, is a warning on the upper left of my monitor saying "Show will be removed April 1". From my viewpoint, I'm paying the same, and getting less. Not only less, but specifically…

I'm just pointing out that such complaints are aimed at the wrong target, that's the way it shall be with any service as long as people don't complain to the companies that control the rights to such content.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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As I posted in the dupe: This saddens me. >Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries That's not incongruous to me. The stars are not about "enjoyment" factor, they are about perceived quality. I may have a go to cheap ice-cream and rate it 3-stars but rate a good affogato 5-stars and only have it once in…

When I watch netflix, I use the stars as a measure of if I would enjoy something. I don't think most people use stars as a measure of "quality" because when they browse movies, they are looking for something they enjoy, not something that's high quality that they might not enjoy.

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And not only that, but also removing their existing collections of videos and replacing it with their "Made by Netflix" shows that mostly amount to shovelware. I'm about ready to drop them, just like they've dropped MASH, soon to be X-Files, and many many movies.

I support Netflix out of philosophy. I want to support media which is offered without restriction and most importantly without advertisement. Netflix goes out of its way to make sure it's as watchable as possible (sans being able to download their stuff without DRM, but I can't blame them for that, it's too risky for their business).

I have similar reasons to support HBO. However, I will not send money towards FOX/Comcast/Disney/Viacom because they still want to restrict their content and make it as hard as possible to watch it.

Of course, the danger is they could just start introducing advertising again by way of product placement in the story itself, but if it goes too far, I guess I'll cancel then.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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As I posted in the dupe: This saddens me. >Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries That's not incongruous to me. The stars are not about "enjoyment" factor, they are about perceived quality. I may have a go to cheap ice-cream and rate it 3-stars but rate a good affogato 5-stars and only have it once in…

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Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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As I posted in the dupe: This saddens me. >Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries That's not incongruous to me. The stars are not about "enjoyment" factor, they are about perceived quality. I may have a go to cheap ice-cream and rate it 3-stars but rate a good affogato 5-stars and only have it once in…

> They are diluting the meaning of quality and instead are opting for a saccharine "enjoyment" factor.

They are just trying to increase number of views for a poor quality library. This will mask how bad most of the content is and increase their numbers.

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As I posted in the dupe: This saddens me. >Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries That's not incongruous to me. The stars are not about "enjoyment" factor, they are about perceived quality. I may have a go to cheap ice-cream and rate it 3-stars but rate a good affogato 5-stars and only have it once in…

I agree with you. And hat tip for the nice analogy. Perhaps they should implement a system analogous to facebook's Reactions (e.g. "disliked", "thought provoking", "easy watching", etc) as a way to differentiate between cheap/easy and high quality releases.

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Is this just part of the trend to dumb everything down to a polarising dichotomy? Because the trend to stop people from having a more complex and rational opinion than just picking sides doesn't seem to exactly improve discourse or debate, or inform and educate... Wouldn't it be more beneficial to have fewer people give a more detailed review to describe what they like and dislike about something? What use is "good"…

I think it's more a reaction to a usage pattern of their star system. YouTube abandoned their five star rating system citing that most people voted only 1 or 5 stars with almost nothing in between. [1] I'd guess a vast amount of Netflix users do the same.

[1] https://youtube.googleblog.com/2009/09/five-stars-dominate-r...

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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I have always wanted to get ratings from a selected group of viewers who has similar tastes as me. For example, I like SciFi movies that involves planetary travel, ie Star Trek or similar style movies. If I can get ratings from folks with similar interests as well, then the rating system would make sense for me. Otherwise, it is still a hit and miss for me.

That's exactly how their recommendation system works. If it just surfaced the highest-rated movies globally, everyone's recs would be identical. Collaborative filtering implicitly weighs the opinions of those similar to you more highly.
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