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None of what she described is sexism. Even the tank top thing, maybe barely. Her manager made a good point - maybe her career isn't progressing as fast, because she dresses very casually, and people don't take her as seriously. I don't think I've ever seen a girl in tech wear a tank top (not that I would mind, just pointing it out).
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Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't see anything that the manager is doing wrong. We can debate whether the manager is effective at her job, but it seems clear to me this is not an example of sexism. The only citation I can find relevant to the claim of sexism is that she was asked not to wear a tank-top to work. It may very well be that a tank-top is inappropriate attire at Uber's workplace. At IBM and many o…
Easy fix: Mandatory dress codes. Men in suit, with tie from the time you enter the office until the time you leave. Women in suits, pants or skirts. Or go whole hog and require everyone to wear grey coveralls when in office. Institutions with dress codes generally have less BS distractions because the distractions simply can't exist.
Protip for all the younger workers out there: HR is not there to protect you or help you. They are there to protect the company. Sometimes protecting the company happens to mean helping you, and sometimes the HR people are good people who look for solutions that makes everyone happy. But don't count on it.
That's not wrong, but it seems like in these recent cases, HR has done a terrible job protecting Uber from liability and lawsuits.
That's what happens when you let the clowns run the asylum.
While reading the account, it seems the Manager is from India perhaps? Edit: I am an Indian and it is a big deal in India to wear "revealing clothes", albeit I have no idea what a tank top is neither do I care Just FYI do you don't assume that I am a sexist and downvote me.
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Which racist thought made you reach that conclusion?
I am an Indian and I hear these things daily, "you are wearing a top which discloses too much of your body" blah blah bullshit even in the 2017. Note: I don't understand HN's algorithm, apparently, I can downvote every comment except yours :D
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But that results in MBA culture! ::nerd shudders:: It's a source of constant amazement to me that people who will drill incessantly on red-black trees won't put in a modicum of effort to learn even a little bit about the inherently more complicated business of managing people.
>It's a source of constant amazement to me that people who will drill incessantly on red-black trees won't put in a modicum of effort to learn even a little bit about the inherently more complicated business of managing people. This isn't really an issue if you promote an engineer to mgmt when they have demonstrated that can manage people, rather than before and assume they can grow.
The only thing that fixes this is extensive training before promotion -- but this is anathema in modern corporations.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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During my exit from a previous employer over a CEO whose sexual misconduct makes Uber look like the ACLU, one of our investors gave me the advice that "the CEO sets the culture". The context there was that if the CEO and I didn't see eye to eye on something, that was never going to change while this person was CEO. In the time since, I've found that advice to be so reliably true that it's one of the core things I use…
...if the CEO and I didn't see eye to eye on something, that was never going to change while this person was CEO. This advice may be reliably true but I would also argue there are major exceptions. For example, take founder & ceo of any billion dollar company and you will find that they evolved drastically (in good and bad ways) over the years. Zuckerberg has radically transformed himself from an immature frat boy to…
Re: "founders can change" - I don't think it's the role of the staff to wait around while a guy spends years in management learning not to be a dick. If they put up with it, and it happens, fine that's great, but it doesn't impact the linkage between CEO and culture.
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Which racist thought made you reach that conclusion?
I am an Indian and I hear these things daily, "you are wearing a top which discloses too much of your body" blah blah bullshit even in the 2017. Note: I don't understand HN's algorithm, apparently, I can downvote every comment except yours :D
You can't downvote a reply to your own comment. This encourages discussion; instead of downvoting, post a rebuttal.
Why aren't managers graded on retention? If you lose too many people you're penalized or fired.
Perhaps because it's a poor indicator of performance. There's a lot more factors at play when people quit than just "i hate my boss"