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Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

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Re: Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

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There are also other substances (such as psilocybin and LSD) which have the potential to massively reduce the cashflow of big pharma (specifically: in the case of anti-depressants).

And now you understand the importance of the War on Drugs for billionaires in our society.

It seems people are slowly beginning to understand to what degree our society and its systems are corrupted by "economic forces" and not built with the interest of the citizens' wellbeing at heart.

Re: Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

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My understanding is that opioids also constrict the ureter and make it more difficult to pass the stone. Whereas since weed is an anti-inflammatory it may even have some benefits.

Opioids can also cause extreme constipation, which can also result in extreme agony when you're coming off of them. That's what happened to me when I was coming off morphine and oxycodone given me in the ER to treat kidney stone pain. It was hell, and that experience alone makes me seriously contemplate refusing all pain killing medication if I'm ever offered it again.

I'm not suggesting you use opioids again but, if you need to, I recommend Lactulose for the constipado. It's a sugar that can't be digested and pushes things along nicely. That's a little better than going though agonising pain or needing to overdose on a laxative with an LD50.

Re: Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

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I get kidney stones pretty often (6 times in the last 8 years). I vomit from the pain, convulse on the floor, lose all sense of self as I just struggle to survive the sensation. It is intense. Usually I have to go to the emergency room for IV opioids. Then they give you some to take home after you pass the peak of the pain. Last time it happened to me, I went home at around 6pm after going into the hospital that morn…

Know that there are whole lineages of yoga associated with the use of this power plant. I recommend exploring the combination while remaining open to being led (as in moves and timing) by the plant and by the enhanced awareness of what needs attention/release in the body.

It may be helpful to commit the mind prior to the session and create a distraction- and thinking- free environment.

Re: Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

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My mom has benefited from cannabis to help treat chrohns. While nothing has cured, it's been the most effective with no known side effects. Plus it's cheaper than the meds she has been buying for years (spending out of pocket upwards $10k a year with $500 a pill just for flare ups even with medicare in Canada). She has been in hell for 30 years. They wanted to remove her small intestine ~20 years ago and she didn't w…

What is your mom taking exactly? I have Crohn's disease but unfortunately my attempts to treat with MMJ haven't been quite as successful. Since the research is so lacking, you sort of have to come up with a custom protocol. I'd be interested to know what hers is.

Re: Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

#85
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Treating chronic pain has less to do with pain relief and more to do with mental health. Sometimes people just want to forget or feel different for a while. Also, opiates suck!

Where'd you get this idea? Any citations? Your comment reads condescending to me: "my pain is all in my head." But it's not, and treating my mental heath is treating the symptoms and not the cause. The best thing for my mental health would be an end to my physical pain.

That's the thing though... with chronic pain there is no end to the physical pain, and this fact alone can be mentally taxing. Sometimes taking your mind off your situation is more effective than painkillers. Chronic pain is a life long mental _and_ physical battle.

Re: Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

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I get kidney stones pretty often (6 times in the last 8 years). I vomit from the pain, convulse on the floor, lose all sense of self as I just struggle to survive the sensation. It is intense. Usually I have to go to the emergency room for IV opioids. Then they give you some to take home after you pass the peak of the pain. Last time it happened to me, I went home at around 6pm after going into the hospital that morn…

As someone who suffered kidney stones at 16 and is closing in on age 30 without the benefits of health coverage... an account like this is promising and semi-comforting to me. I don't know if they'll strike again but when they did last I lived a month on percocets, a day on morphine, and had to have a stint installed and removed to stay functional in high school while also undergoing ultrasonic stone blasting.(this w…

You should look in to what kinds of food are least likely to increase your risk for kidney stones. Apparently, some foods just build kidney stones like crazy in some people.

Re: Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

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Opioids reduce, but don't block extreme pain so much as make you not care about it. They work really well for short term, less extreme pain, but they become less effective over time and they side effects are nasty. So my guess is people with long term pain are probably better off with canibis long term even if Opiods work really well for post operation pain for example.

Would be great if opiods never left the hospital.

People in long term pain need better access to specialist pain management clinics with the full range of interventions - exercise, alternative prescribing, etc. But even with Opioids Aware prescribing, and even if cannabis is legalised, some people will still need opioids.

http://www.fpm.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-aware

Re: Given Choice, Patients Will Choose Cannabis Over Prescribed Opioids

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I get kidney stones pretty often (6 times in the last 8 years). I vomit from the pain, convulse on the floor, lose all sense of self as I just struggle to survive the sensation. It is intense. Usually I have to go to the emergency room for IV opioids. Then they give you some to take home after you pass the peak of the pain. Last time it happened to me, I went home at around 6pm after going into the hospital that morn…

Thanks for that advice, I'll have to try that next time. I too have had kidney stones that hurt to the point of vomiting and being unable to even speak. Same thing, given opioids that barely helped with the pain. And in my case, they ended up triggering a light panic attack sensation. Not to mention the $4,000 hospital bill for getting a scan and prescription, of which my insurance only covered $2,300 of it.
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