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Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by smsm42 »

Preemo wrote: post #30

I'm amazed so many people are fine with the other ingredient being soy; I could go on for hours as to why that's among the worst things to be substituted with. -95% of soy in the US is GMO, lacking any genetic variance and little make-up of microorganisms (good bacteria.) -It's also a horrible source of fats, and more in particular the omega-6 to 3 ratio is incredibly hostile to basic function on the cellular level.…

Smacks of conspirology and pseudo-science. Who cares if it's GMO? All food we eat is GMO. Non-GMO animals and plants hate to be eaten (well, most of them, some use being eaten as distribution strategy, but even those aren't targeting humans), and take measures to avoid it. That's why thousands of years ago humans started the project of genetically modifying them to make them more eatable. And we were spectacularly successful.

Not sure what genetic variance of the soy I'd eat would make for me - the genetic material would be destroyed anyway once I eat it.

Also not sure what it has to do with micro-organisms.

Phrases like "incredibly hostile to basic function on the cellular level" again sound like pseudo-science - what it actually means? Which function? How hostile?

Soy certainly contains amino-acids - e.g. see here: http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1516...

The total content of the following amino acids were quantified in the soybean samples using NIRS: Glutamic Acid (Glu), Aspartic Acid (Asp), Alanine (Ala), Arginine (Arg), Phenylalanine (Phe), Glycine (Gly), Histidine (His), Isoleucine (Ile), Leucine (Leu), Lysine (Lys), Methionine (Met), Methionine and Cystine, Proline (Pro), Serine (Ser), Tyrosine (Tyr), Threonine (Thr) and Valine (Val).

Etc, etc. - in short, I'm not sure what you're talking about here except for evil Monsanto capitalists being out to kill us all.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by andai »

maxerickson wrote: post #76
salesguy222 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not unfortunate when you think of all the chickens that are needlessly slaughtered to appeal to people's unhealthy dietary laziness ^.^

If you are gonna complain, you should complain that they are needlessly hatched, caged and slaughtered. If we weren't eating them, we'd also stop growing them.

I feel like you have a point in there somewhere. Would you like to share it?

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by TillE »

AndyNemmity wrote: post #32
learc83 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If it's 50%, that's a serious level of carbs An ounce of tofu has about 0.5g of carbs. I don't think it's going to add more than a few grams for an entire sandwich.

For keto you have 20. If it's 4 grams, that's 20% of what you can have from something expected to have 0.

20g is on the really low end. Test with Ketostix, tons of people are fine with over 50g.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by ashildr »

> only about half chicken DNA.

Maybe I'm a little dense here, but that reads very strange to me and does not seem to make any sense. A burger made of 50g chicken and 50g poly styrene would still contain 100% chicken DNA.

How much DNA (in what metrics?) does a gram of chicken contain compared to a gram of soy?

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by maxerickson »

andai wrote: post #82
maxerickson wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are gonna complain, you should complain that they are needlessly hatched, caged and slaughtered. If we weren't eating them, we'd also stop growing them.

I feel like you have a point in there somewhere. Would you like to share it?

Zing!

I personally don't care about chickens, they are basically a moving vegetable to me. But we don't pull chickens out of a magic chicken tube, we grow them in huge barns, with a great deal of intention.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by AndyNemmity »

TillE wrote: post #83
AndyNemmity wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For keto you have 20. If it's 4 grams, that's 20% of what you can have from something expected to have 0.

20g is on the really low end. Test with Ketostix, tons of people are fine with over 50g.

Ketostix don't test nutritional ketosis, and several brands are widely off. But you're right that many people do 40g, or 50g.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by Preemo »

Preemo wrote: post #30

I'm amazed so many people are fine with the other ingredient being soy; I could go on for hours as to why that's among the worst things to be substituted with. -95% of soy in the US is GMO, lacking any genetic variance and little make-up of microorganisms (good bacteria.) -It's also a horrible source of fats, and more in particular the omega-6 to 3 ratio is incredibly hostile to basic function on the cellular level.…

Tough crowd! I'm not going to get too detailed here, I'll let you do your own research:

-Hormone disruption from the lack of useable amino acids and 'bad cholesterol' from which your body cannot properly create/maintain cellular function (immune system, endocrine system, gene expression.) Alternatively, with healthy fats and saturated fats from unprocessed red meat, including the good balance of proper amino acids, for instance, your body can create the required hormones more efficiently and in proper form. Your endocrine system (HPTA axis) is incredibly important (and sensitive to disruption) to so many aspects in your body and controls the basic cellular function in any mammalian being. Huge contributor to neurodevelopment, mood and subsequently mental health.

-Hormone disruption from pesticides commonly used in todays farming (especially mega-farms specific to producing for these restaurant chains/grocers.) I encourage you to do your research on these specifically.

-Microflora, more specifically good gut health, is incredibly important in mood regulation and neurodevelopment. Your gut is commonly referred to in the medical world as the second brain -- over 90% of serotonin alone is produced and stored in your guts.

Good day.

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by kaybe »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #73
djsumdog wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea I switched to a keto diet a few years back and it's made a world of difference. Bread is really terrible for you, especially in the quantities we eat in the western world. A subway sandwich is terrible for you with its bread to filling ratio, and now we see their chicken salads may not be as healthy as we thought as well.

> Bread is really terrible for you Maybe for some people. But we don't have the nutritional science to say this definitively, let alone universally.

And let me just note that what the English-speaking world considers bread is an abomination.

Sincerely, a German.

(Seriously, if you can compact it easily to a third of the size, that's just wrong. And don't get me started on the strange interior.)

Re: DNA tests show Subway sandwiches could contain just 50% chicken

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Post by Preemo »

smsm42 wrote: post #81
Preemo wrote: post #30

I'm amazed so many people are fine with the other ingredient being soy; I could go on for hours as to why that's among the worst things to be substituted with. -95% of soy in the US is GMO, lacking any genetic variance and little make-up of microorganisms (good bacteria.) -It's also a horrible source of fats, and more in particular the omega-6 to 3 ratio is incredibly hostile to basic function on the cellular level.…

Smacks of conspirology and pseudo-science. Who cares if it's GMO? All food we eat is GMO. Non-GMO animals and plants hate to be eaten (well, most of them, some use being eaten as distribution strategy, but even those aren't targeting humans), and take measures to avoid it. That's why thousands of years ago humans started the project of genetically modifying them to make them more eatable. And we were spectacularly su…

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