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Re: Mark Zuckerberg: Building Global Community

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Post by throwawasiudy »

ryanwhitney wrote: post #49
koolba wrote: post #10

Is there a special filter or manual curation process for the comments at the bottom of Zuckerberg's posts? From my skimming through the first 30-40 comments, they're uniformly positive. I find it hard to believe that any internet forum open to public commentary would have that many positive responses.

"Zuckerberg relies on a team of at least 12 people to delete harassing comments and spam from his page while an additional team manages his communications and writes his posts and speeches, Bloomberg reports." http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/18/14314872/mark-zuckerberg-p...

holy shit wtf

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: Building Global Community

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Post by [deleted] »

mi100hael wrote: post #38

I also just read a BBC article[1] that includes an interview with Zuck regarding this piece, and I can't help but think "they still don't get it." There are valid concerns regarding globalism that have gone largely ignored by (usually liberal) politicians. Those who raise issues like manufacturing jobs moving abroad[2] or violence from a sudden influx of refugees[3][4] have been labeled racist, bigoted, and ignorant.…

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg: Building Global Community

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Post by wilg »

gydfi wrote: post #72
anigbrowl wrote: post #56

One simple way to improve the quality of news republished on Facebook (albeit at a possible loss of some revenue) is to pull out the date of publication and clearly indicate to the person sharing how old the article is. Well-meaning friends are constantly posting urgent-sounding stories about events that happened months or years ago because they overlooked the date of publication. For example, I know a good few peopl…

A way I'd prefer: quit letting people share news on facebook. Heck, let's go back to text-only status updates and I can go back to reading what my acquaintances are eating. That would be much more pleasant than today's facebook.

How would you like them to share the news?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: Building Global Community

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Post by mikedouglas »

jdoliner wrote: post #46
tomlock wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you help me understand what those real anti-globalization reasons, that don't include receiving enough of the benefits, are?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Alone is a good place to start. The basic finding of the studies detailed in that book are that globalization, and particularly multiculturalism within communities have very negative effects on the happiness and community participation of those involved. Diversity and multiculturalism are generally considered axiomatically good by the left and these studies were done by leftist t…

If your hypothesis was correct, shouldn't these lily-white small towns in Pennsylvania and West Virginia be paragons of social connectedness and happiness, instead of the epicenter of the opioid epidemic?

The problem with jumping to the conclusion that "multiculturalism is bad" is that it seeds the idea that people who don't lookalike can't peacefully co-exist. Personally, I feel a far greater sense of community here in Silicon Valley than I did in the homogenous suburb I grew up in.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: Building Global Community

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Post by jdoliner »

a13n wrote: post #75
jdoliner wrote: post #7

I find this letter to be deeply cynical. There's a baked in assumption that a global community is a good thing and that the only possible reason to resist it is because you're being left behind by its benefits. I don't think that's true and I certainly don't think it should be assumed a priori. There are people in this country, and every where in the world, who don't want globalization. And it's not because they have…

Isn't Hacker News a global community? How can you say such a thing while clearly participating and getting value out of a global community?

No, HN is a small community of people who share a narrow set of interests. Although that set of interests is broadening and I think HN is worse for it. While the community does include people from all over the globe and thus is in a literal sense global. It's not global in the sense of attempting to include and cater to everyone. If there are people who don't see much value or enjoy HN much the HN staff doesn't seem to have much interest in changing their minds.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: Building Global Community

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Post by krapp »

a13n wrote: post #75
jdoliner wrote: post #7

I find this letter to be deeply cynical. There's a baked in assumption that a global community is a good thing and that the only possible reason to resist it is because you're being left behind by its benefits. I don't think that's true and I certainly don't think it should be assumed a priori. There are people in this country, and every where in the world, who don't want globalization. And it's not because they have…

Isn't Hacker News a global community? How can you say such a thing while clearly participating and getting value out of a global community?

Hacker News really doesn't have the scale to be considered a global community in the sense that's being described, and it harbors a culture which self-selects against general purpose content in order to prevent itself from becoming that global community.

The "global" version of Hacker News would just be a text only Reddit.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: Building Global Community

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Post by aylmao »

jordigh wrote: post #41
nodesocket wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You bring up great points, and hit on the miscalculation and hypocrisy of the left. They seem to think that globalization is a universally good thing, and if you're against it then you are somehow disconnected, a racist, and a monster. This a common symptom not just isolated to globalization.

Why is this about left or right or the hypocrisy of anyone? NAFTA was widely criticised by some Mexican leftists (might still be, haven't been following as closely) because it was viewed as being hugely beneficial to foreign interests and to wealthy elites, not to common Mexicans. The same people in favour of women's rights and equality were critical of globalisation. If this is about US politics, I find it so weird…

More than left vs. right, I tend to find it's about big-money interests vs the masses. NAFTA was criticized by the masses and those who care about the general population, but endorsed by politicians across the entire spectrum who were aligned with business interests.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: Building Global Community

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Post by bdueicnenbshesh »

a13n wrote: post #75
jdoliner wrote: post #7

I find this letter to be deeply cynical. There's a baked in assumption that a global community is a good thing and that the only possible reason to resist it is because you're being left behind by its benefits. I don't think that's true and I certainly don't think it should be assumed a priori. There are people in this country, and every where in the world, who don't want globalization. And it's not because they have…

Isn't Hacker News a global community? How can you say such a thing while clearly participating and getting value out of a global community?

At least for me, participation in HN is voluntary.
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